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Message 1 of 25 in Discussion

From:

nanna1961 (Original Message)

Sent: 7/12/2008 3:19 AM

Looking for a birth for Julia Mulcahy born app 1830-1832 Cork I have her marriage cert 1852 Australia (she married John ELLISON also known as ALLISON who also came from Cork) & her death cert 1900 Australia and her daughters birth cert this is where I got the birth dates from so I started searching passenger lists and the only Julia showing up coming to Aus between the the yr of birth and the yr of marriage is a Julia Mulcahy age 16 from Kanturk Co Cork on the ship Maria 1850 parents Thomas & Bessy both deceased which gives yr of birth 1834 from what I have been told this Julia is mentioned in the book Bare foot and pregant any help in finding info on Julia would be greatly appreciated

Lee

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Message 11 of 25 in Discussion

From:

mickym1951

Sent: 7/12/2008 12:43 PM

Lee The History foundation Hol one record that Fits for Julia.But i entered Kanturk and it was not from there.

Church Baptism Mulcahy Julia 1833 Co. Cork

You are Correct when you said only one Julia

MULCAHY Julia 16 Maria 1850 2136, 2461 NSW RECORDS

Mike

Message 12 of 25 in Discussion

From:

mickym1951

Sent: 7/12/2008 12:44 PM

Working ON John Allison there was3 Records

ALLISON John 30 and family Golconda 1858 2138, 2477

ALLISON John 19 Golconda 1858 2138, 2477

ALLISON John Mr Maria P 29/8/1853 Melbourne SMH

Message 13 of 25 in Discussion

From:

nanna1961

Sent: 7/13/2008 3:34 AM

Hi Mike you found the right 1 as George PICKERING and Ellen ELLISON are my grgr grandparents so I can't work out how they are getting the birth place and marriage date and mother's name as all my cert's say otherwise I have all the cert's for George and Ellen PICKERING nee ELLISON as well as the death's and marriage cert's for John & Julia ELLISON (ALLISON) nee MULCAHY (MULKAHY) so I'm getting pretty confused as for the John's you found my John arrived AUS before 1852 as John & Julia married at St Mary's Cathedral SYDNEY in 1852 even thought Ellen's birth says 1851 wish I knew were the mix up was it's giving me a headache thanks for your help it greatly appreciated

Lee

Message 14 of 25 in Discussion

From:

mickym1951

Sent: 7/13/2008 6:34 AM

Hi Lee,Firstly.The confusion.Yes i can see your Point YOU have your certs to prove Parentage.The Problem with Lds Is one Mistake Can throw you Back to Square one.

I think that Someone found out the name was Julia,They Cross referenced The Names Somehow.They Obviously Were told Those Names.They could not Find Any other Julia.So Assumed they had the right one

Thing is now We have Found the Mistake,The Lds should really be imformed

Not sure how to go about that.

Will Speak To Carol Our Manager in America

But one thing it will show you is to Check other names.Certs Prove Parentage .

NOW THE reason i sent those ones Because we now Know there were other John Allisison,s And Maybe one of those married a Julia also.

I hope you can see What i mean,Please let me know IF YOU would like this Corrected.Will find out From Carol ,As she HELPS AT THE family history centre in Texas.

Mike

Message 15 of 25 in Discussion

From:

nanna1961

Sent: 7/13/2008 7:23 AM

Hi Mike I suppose it would be better for people searching this family in the future if the info was corrected if it's easy enough to do will wait to hear from you how to go about it thankyou

Lee

Message 16 of 25 in Discussion

From:

jelora

Sent: 7/13/2008 7:49 AM

Hi Lee,

It is quite early Sunday Morning here in Texas,but I did look for your family information.

The LDS Church is aware of the mistakes in duplicate entries in the databases that have been added by church members and not taken from actual records.

There is an effort that has been going on for almost a year now to clear ancestral and pedigree resource files..

Church members have been trying to merge duplicates ... they require supporting documents before any families will be merged.

I'm probably not making too much sense at this hour of the morning. but .. I looked up your Julia MULKAHY married to JOHN ALLISON ,17 August 1852.. there were no duplicate entries for this marriage.

There was a marriage entry for

John ELLISON b ABT.1833 Syndey NSW Australia.

to Julie Walkie b ABT 1835...no birth place...

They are looking at two possible duplicate entries for the above Ellison and Walkie... If this was my family I could dispute the data entry with the supporting documents that are a primary source, such as birth and marriage records.

I feel as though I've come in on the third act of a play and really don't know anything about the preceeding acts.

I did see mention of George Pickering and Ellen Ellison as parents..quite a few entries..but as I said.. I couldn't begin to follow through with what I'm understanding at present.

Note I used ELLISON and not ALLISON in the search.

The marriage record must have been recorded as Allison.

Hope that this helps..

jelora aka Carole Jean

Message 17 of 25 in Discussion

From:

nanna1961

Sent: 7/13/2008 9:54 AM

Hi Carole thanks for your reply yes the marriage is under Allison & Mulkahy the Pickering's is a very long line it is 1 of the easiest family lines to trace have had no trouble with it and was even lucky enough to be sent photo's of my gr grandfather and his grandfather pity not all family lines are as easy thanks again

Lee

Message 18 of 25 in Discussion

From:

mickym1951

Sent: 7/13/2008 9:58 AM

Hi lee Im sorry i never Got straight Back to you i had to go into work.Im waiting on Carol in Texas to let me Know the Best way

Mike

Message 19 of 25 in Discussion

From:

mickym1951

Sent: 7/13/2008 4:28 PM

Lee i Checked out The Julia Mulcahy Born 1833 Born Cohb,There was Another Born 1835 In Cobh.But None in Kanturk

Mike

Message 20 of 25 in Discussion

From:

jelora

Sent: 7/13/2008 5:46 PM

Hi Lee,

The following was found on Ancestry .com Public family trees..

It appears that this person just copied marriages that pertain to different family lines.

No other data is included just marriages.

I've gone through the lisiting for George Pickering and this is the only instance so far found that the name Ellen Ellison is connected.

Tree Name NSW-MAR-F-Meredith-Murray

Tree Description For the Marriage Female INDEX for NSW further info might be found at the NSW Site http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm

Is Tree Public? Yes

Date Last Modified 6/15/2008

Vital Information

Name John Allison

Birth Abt 01 Jan 1827

Name Julia Mulkahy

Birth Abt 01 Jan 1832

Relationship Events with Julia Mulkahy

Marriage 1852 in Sydney, St Mary's,,NSW,Australia

The next Tree is for another family line..

John ALLISON and Julie Mulcahy do NOT appear in the index of people

Tree Name NSW-MAR-F-Egan-Forster

Tree Description For the Marriage Female INDEX for NSW further info might be found at the NSW Site http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm

Is Tree Public? Yes

Date Last Modified 7/7/2008

Name George Pickering

Birth Abt 01 Jan 1850

Name Ellen Ellison

Birth Abt 01 Jan 1855

Marriage 1875 in Sydney,,NSW,Australia

Is Ellen the child of John and Julie?

Who are the siblings of Ellen?

Who did they marry?

Perhaps, if we can break this down into different family groups, we might be able to locate additional information.

As for the Familysearch.org site, we can examine the information found there after, a clearer picture of this family group becomes known.

jelora/Carole

Message 21 of 25 in Discussion

From:

jelora

Sent: 7/14/2008 1:38 AM

Hi Lee..

I've been surfing the internet looking for Family History Books that might mention your family and came across this site.

Since you are from this area,I imagine that it isn't as new to you as it is to me..

http://www.search4ancestors.net/phpGedView/individual.php?pid=I29588&ged=OZIGENPHP.GED

I saw that they have the Given name as Alice.. Ellen Ellison.

But still no parents linked to Alice Ellen.

Will keep looking.. maybe something will turn up!

jelora

Message 22 of 25 in Discussion

From:

nanna1961

Sent: 7/14/2008 6:12 AM

Hi Mike someone sent me this info from the Orphan's list this info gave this area as place of birth and parents as Thomas & Bessy both deceased and that she was catholic I know my Julia was catholic as for the rest of the info I'm not sure I'm only looking at this 1 as she is the only coming to Aus in this time frame thanks for all your help it's appreciated

Lee

Message 23 of 25 in Discussion

From:

nanna1961

Sent: 7/14/2008 6:22 AM

Hi Carole yes I have seen this site I also sent him some info but was never told were he got the name Alice Ellen from I also have some of the kids names (Ellen's siblings) and were they are buried will have to see if I can find the info on Ancestry I know there's not much on my line as George & Ellen's son William only had 2 kids and that was my nan & her brother who have both passed nan never wanted to help me with the tree as she never wanted to talk about family the only info she ever gave was alot of the PICKERING's where police but she forgot to mention all the convicts I never even knew he dad was in the army. thanks for your all help will check out ancestry

Lee

Message 24 of 25 in Discussion

From:

mickym1951

Sent: 7/17/2008 9:19 PM

Hi Lee i ave not Forgotten you,Just working on other searches.As we Believe Julia was Born in Kanturk Area.I checked out the Irish Family History Foundation Using Griffiths Registrations Also.

There was No Thomas Mulcahy listed in Kanturk.So i Tried areas Near.And found the Following Marriages.In Total 7 Possibilities

Mike

4 matches for the search criteria: Mulcahy (plus variants) Thomas Parish: MOURNEABBEY (RC)
Action Source Surname First Name Year County
Church Marriage Mulcahy Thomas 1837 Co. Cork
Church Marriage Mulcahy Thomas 1841 Co. Cork
Church Marriage Mulcahy Thomas 1845 Co. Cork
Church Marriage Mulcahy Thomas 1890 Co. Cork

1 match for the search criteria: Mulcahy (plus variants) Thomas Parish: BALLYCLOUGH (RC)
Action Source Surname First Name Year County
Church Marriage Mulcahy Thomas 1836 Co. Cork

2 matches for the search criteria: Mulcahy (plus variants) Thomas Parish: AGHADA (RC)
Action Source Surname First Name Year County
Church Marriage Mulcahy Thomas 1788 Co. Cork
Church Marriage Mulcahy Thomas 1815 Co. Cork

Message 25 of 25 in Discussion

From:

nanna1961

Sent: 7/18/2008 1:29 AM

Hi Mike thanks for the info for Thomas with the birth dates for Julia we would have to be looking before 1834 I supoose the 1815 might fit I'm not sure if Julia had brother's and sisters they use to be having kids for a far few yrs back then it's a pity the marriage and death cert's didn't have more info on the MULCHAY & ELLISON side thanks again for your help

Lee

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