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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKate  (Original Message)Sent: 10/8/2008 11:56 AM
Dear Members
 
Would appreciate any help I can get with my  g g g grandfather.  I am attaching his profile below.
  
Thanking you in anticipation.
 

ANDREW PAGAN? PEAGAN? BORN KILMANNON NEAR MARYBOROUGH QUEENS COUNTY ca 1809.MARYBOROUGH is now in an area called PORTLAOISE.

I understand the Parish may be BEKAN. Joined Army at 18 years of age. Served with 1/21st Regiment of Foot Royal north British Fusiliers at KILKENNY , IRELAND - (ARMY PAPERS DESCRIBE HIM AS

ANDREW PEAGAN) PRIVATE ANDREW PEAGAN (ALSO CALLED PAGAN, PEGIN AND PHEGAN)

Born ca 1809 Kilmannon, near Maryborough Queens County, IrelandOccupation Soldier  ATTESTED for the 21st Regiment of Foot on 7 June 1827 (age 18 years) at Birr.  Served Ireland 1827 �?1832.  Transferred to 51st Regiment of Foot 1 October 1838 31 July 1846.  Transferred to 11th Regiment of Foot 1 August 1846 to 31 July 1848.  Transferred to 99th Regiment of Foot 1 August 1848 to 31 January 1850.


Arrived Australia (Sydney) Oct 1833 then HOBART, TASMANIA, 10 October 1833.  Ship arrived on “Lord Lyndoch�?/P>

Rank on Discharge Private.  Date of Discharge 1 February 1850.  Where discharged: Hobart, Tasmania. Granted pension - - chronic rheumatism due to consequence of climate.

Died & buried Beechworth, Victoria, 1860.

Parents�?names �?unknown at this time It is noted that whilst with the 99th Regiment, he was sending money home to:  Anne Beatrice ?or Bettrion? �?Clonaslee –Buttis?, Queens Co, Ireland.  Perhaps his mother?

MET MARGRET DELANY IN KILKENNY, IRELAND, married 6 JULY 1831 ST. MARY’S CATHOLIC PARISH REGISTERS, KILKENNY CITY, VOL 2 PAGE 61. MARRIAGE RECORD SHOWS HIM AS ANDREW PAGAN (but the writing was not completely legible and was only taken to be PAGAN).The witnesses to the marriage were Patrick Hollway & Bessy Brown.  No parents of either party were shown on the marriage record.It is likely MARGRET DELANY was born in KILKENNY also AND it is possible her parents were JAMES & JULIANNE?  But still researching that information. Very difficult as the Kilkenny Archeological Society has advised that the surname DELANY was most numerous in 19th century KILKENNY.  There was a baptism for a MARY (could have been Marg) DELANY on 10 March 1807 in St. Canice’s Catholic Parish Records Register 2 Pg 221. They lived in LEE’S LANE Which was very close to St. Mary’s Catholic Parish in Kilkenny City.  The Parents of this Mary were JAMES & Julianne.

The Kilkenny Archaeological Society did advise that there are two tombstone inscriptions for James Delaney in the old Thornback cemetery which is within the Catholic Parish of St. Canice, Kilkenny.

Andrew & Margaret had 4 SONS NAMED 1) JAMES (possibly James Joseph) born IRELAND???, 2) RICHARD, 3) JOHN JOSEPH 4) ANDREW BARNABAS< the last 3 all born Australia.


Yours sincerely
Mary 



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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 10/11/2008 11:47 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknamemickym1951</NOBR>  in response to Message 3 Sent: 2008/10/11 06:33 AM
Mary this is Janes Addy

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 10/11/2008 11:51 AM
Hi Minnie
 
I have moved your messages as they were on the General board.  They should be on the P board. 
 
When replying, please do not start a new thread every time.  Go to the relevant surname board, which in this case is Surname "P", click on the name PAGAN Andrew, go the last message in the thread and click on "Reply" in the pink square on the message.  A new window will open up for you to write your message.
 
Hope this is helpful
 
Marian
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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 10/11/2008 6:08 PM
ANDREW PEAGAN Born KILMANNON, Leix Served in 99th Foot Regiment; 11th Foot Regiment; 21st Foot Regiment; 51st Foot Regiment Discharged aged 40 . ANDREW PEAGAN Born KILMANNON, Leix Served in 99th Foot Regiment; 11th Foot Regiment; 21st Foot Regiment; 51st Date range: 1827 - 1850.
Source: The Catalogue of The National Archives
Royal Hospital Chelsea: Soldiers Service Documents WO 97/1066/81ANDREW PEAGAN Born KILMANNON, Leix Served in 99th Foot Regiment; 11th Foot

Scope and content ANDREW PEAGAN
Born KILMANNON, Leix
Served in 99th Foot Regiment; 11th Foot Regiment; 21st Foot Regiment; 51st Foot Regiment
Discharged aged 40
Covering dates 1827-1850
Availability Open Document, Open Description, Normal Closure before FOI Act: 30 years, This series is currently undergoing digitisation. Access to certain pieces will be disrupted over the next 3 years and advance ordering of this series is not possible during this time. Please check with us that the pieces that you wish to consult are not affected before you travel. 
Held by The National Archives, Kew 
 
Context : quick reference  
WO  Records created or inherited by the War Office, Armed Forces, Judge Advocate General, and related bodies
  Division within WO  Records of the Royal Chelsea and Kilmainham Hospitals
    WO 97  Royal Hospital Chelsea: Soldiers Service Documents
      Subseries within WO 97  1760-1854: discharge papers arranged by regiment, but each described at item level. (WO 97/1-1271)
        WO 97/1066  99th Foot: Mol - Qui
 
Hi minnie not sure where you Got your Info from.Ref Military But found him Listed in the National Archives uk
 
 

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 10/11/2008 6:35 PM
Minnie i checked out Records available For Kilmanman,As you can see they only start from 1849 This is Through LDS no death records.
The church would be the best place to find Andrews Birth And Mothers Death.
As he would have been Born About 1809.The Church may have slightly earlier records
 
Kilmanman, Leix, Ireland - Church records
Title: Parochial registers of Clonaslee (Leix), 1849-1880
Authors: Catholic Church. Parish of Clonaslee (Leix)
Film Notes: Baptisms and marriages, 1849-1880. Microfilm 0926109 Item 1
Kilmanman, Clonaslee, Leix, Ireland - Church records
 
Mike

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 10/11/2008 6:41 PM
This is where i suggest you Write to Or Phone,
 

Clergy

V.Rev. Thomas O’Reilly PP.

Parochial House, The Green, Clonaslee, Co. Laois
Tel: 057-8648030

Church

St. Maman’s Church

Clonaslee, Co.Laois


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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 10/11/2008 7:09 PM
With Ref to Egan i found 3 listed in the Griffiths,I found no pagan pegan phegan listed
 
Mike
 
EGAN  DENIS  QUEEN'S  KILMANMAN       
EGAN  PATRICK  QUEEN'S  KILMANMAN       
EGAN  CATHERINE  QUEEN'S  KILMANMAN 

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 10/11/2008 7:24 PM
Min im just Adding these to show Names
 
 
 
There were Two Eagan living in Queens
EAGAN  MICHAEL  QUEEN'S  CLONENAGH & CLONAGHEEN       
EAGAN  DANIEL  QUEEN'S  CLONENAGH & CLONAGHEEN
 
But then i Found the Following
 
I found Land owned by an Andrew Feagan Says by the side should be Ann Feagan Listed at Dublin Castleknock listed in griffiths
listed are Andrew Feagan,Robert Feagan,John Geoghegan,Mary Day,Elizabeth Daly,Thomas Hoy And Nicholas Smith .
 
Mike  

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From: minnieSent: 10/12/2008 3:09 AM
To all you wonderful people
Mike
Marian
Mike
 
I do appreciate all the information you have sent so far.
 
I am going through everything and with a bit of luck will eventually find my elusive Irish ancestry.
 
I believe I need to start with the Churches in Clonaslee but of course whether they have records earlier than 1849 is the big question. I will try the Dublin Archives and ask the historian as Mike suggests.
 
I am leaning towards the name having been Andrew Feagan and the P was the mistake.  OR Andrew P Eagan/Egan  but in my travels around various websites the name Andrew Eagan hasn't come up.
 
Cheers & thanks again to everyone.
 
Mary
 
 
 
 
 
 

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From: minnieSent: 10/12/2008 3:29 AM
Hello everyone
 
Have been having another look at Andrew's record of Soldier's Remittances and the name of his beneficiary in Ireland ca 1850 might have been  Anne Beakins or Deakins, Clonaslee, Buttis, Queens Co. Ireland.
 
Cheers
Mary

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 10/12/2008 6:25 AM
Mary i looked up the word Buttis,It means in Latin Large Cask,But can also be Fort or Stronghold.
My theorie is he was sending money via a Fort in Queens Hence Buttis Queens.
they then Delivered the money owed to the person the soldier required them to.
It may be worth Checking where this Fort or Stronghold was in Queens.
There should be some info.With Military it is very Difficult To find Much on them.
As most Enlistments Papers were Destroyed so really you are very lucky yours still exist.Our National Archives Still have the Original Papers Via the Chelsea hospital.
 
Mike

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 10/12/2008 6:48 AM
Mary now this may sound odd but i believe that its eagan,I feel that his writing may have been a bit tardy.and hard to read so then assumed deakin or beakin.Or could be deegin.Now searching this name it came on this
 
 Mrs. Anne Egan - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 1793 Clonadocasy, , Laoighis, Ireland
 
Clonadocasy i think is clonaslee There is also a Spelling of eagan With more or less the same Spelling .LOOKING THIS UP was married to a Dennis.if taken from parish records some of these are very hard to read.and spellings very hard to decipher
 
Mike

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 10/12/2008 10:27 AM
Mary a friend looking at our site pointed out something to me.Now i would not have thought of this i must say
Could his name have been Andrew Reagan or Regan  TAKING THE  THE BOTTOM SECTION OF THE THE LETTER  R and it looks like P
 
MIKE

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 10/12/2008 11:01 AM
Mary this may Interest you,There may be Someone living there that can give you some info
 
Mike
 

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From: minnieSent: 10/13/2008 4:22 AM
Dear Mike
 
How do you do it? You are a wealth of information.  You are simply wonderful.
 
I agree that it could well be Eagan but  will need to delve into Church records for baptisms that might pop up for any Andrew born ca 1809 in Queens County, with possible connections with the names  James/Richard/ John/ Andrew Barnabas.
 
The other thing is I might have to go through all his army pay records to find another entry which might be clearer to show Anne's surname .  He was as you know with various Regiments so it will be a task I need to set  some time to do.
 
I am ever so grateful.
 
Cheers
Mary

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 10/16/2008 9:12 AM
Mary i Dont want to Dissapoint you,But i feel the Name Peagon did exist.
There was a James Peagon Listed in America and Also Devon England
 
Household:
 Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
 James PEAGON   Self   M   Male   W   42   IRELAND   Farmer   IRELAND   IRELAND 
 Allice PEAGON   Wife   M   Female   W   42   PENN.   Keeping House   PENN.   IRELAND 
 William S. PEAGON   Son   S   Male   W   15   PENN.   At Home   IRELAND   PENN. 
 Sarah S. PEAGON   Dau   S   Female   W   8   PENN.   At School   IRELAND   PENN. 
Household:
 Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
 James PEAGAN   Head   M   Male   21   Roseash, Devon, England   Railway Porter    
 Maria PEAGAN   Wife   M   Female   21   Chulmleigh, Devon, England       

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