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From: MSN Nicknamewat4jesus1  (Original Message)Sent: 4/14/2008 7:47 PM
This is my father in law, RUSSELL, Edwin Jack born 22/04/32 in Leicester.
He married STEVENS, Molly born 16/06/32 in Leicester.
 His brother and sisters are as follow;
Terence Wilfred born in Leicester,
Kathline Mary married (Witmore) born in Huntingdon cambs,
and Pamala Christine born in Leicester.
 Hope you are able to help, Wayne


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From: MSN Nicknamewat4jesus1Sent: 4/27/2008 10:17 PM
hi  Marian, i trust you are well, i take it that you cant find anymore info like us, well i want to just say thank you for all your work, it was really appreaciated, Many thanks indeed. Wayne

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 4/28/2008 4:26 PM
Hello Wayne
 
Thank you for your message.  I have not given up on your search.  I have been away for a few days, and have only just returned this evening.
 
If you could let me know who you specifically would like to search for next, I will be happy to help you further.  There are so many directions we could take, but I want to know which line you are most keen to follow next. 
 
Marian

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From: MSN Nicknamewat4jesus1Sent: 5/1/2008 11:45 PM
Hi marian, sorry i thought it came to a stop, but if you can go on it would be interesting, what i would like if possible is who is arthurs father and his father and so on, and if you get brothers and siters on the way back it would be great, Many thanks Wayne

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 5/2/2008 1:33 AM
OK Wayne, will do.  I am involved with other searches at the moment, but as soon as I get a chance I will get back to yours again.  So please bear with me.  Rest assured you are not forgotten.
 
Marian
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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 5/6/2008 6:19 PM
Hello Wayne
 
I have found Arthur Russell Senior in 1871 with his parents, Thomas and Mary, and four brothers including little Herbert!
 
Living at Granford Drove, West Fen, March, Cambridgeshire:
 
Thomas Russell 51 born Wimblington, Cambs. c1820  Farmer of 143 acres employing one man owning 56 acres included in the above total acreage
Mary Russell  49  born March, Cambs. c1822    Farmer's Wife
Children:
Daniel Crowden Russell  23  Son  Unmarried Farmer's Son b Littleport c1848
William Crowden Russell  18  Son  b Littleport c1853
George Tagg Russell  11  Son  b March  c1860
Arthur Russell   8  Son  b March c1863
Herbert Russell   5  Son  b March  c1866
 
 
All the places are very near each other, looking at the map. 
 
I have also found Thomas and Mary's marriage in 1845 and - you guessed it - her maiden name was Crowden:
 
Surname  First name(s)    District  Vol  Page 
Marriages Jun 1845 
  
Crowden  Mary     N Witchford  14 181      
Russell  Thomas     Nth Witchford  14 181   
 
I will keep digging.
 
Marian

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 5/6/2008 6:52 PM
Hello Wayne
 
Continuing on, ten years later in 1881 Mary is 59 and widowed (see death record below).  She is still living at Grandford, and is listed as a Farmer employing 3 men and a woman.  Living with her are sons George Tagg Russell 21, Herbert 15, and also a daughter Susan Crowden Russell 21.
 
Living next door are William Crowden age 22, Farmer of 40 acres and his sister Mary Jane Crowden 32, both b Wimblington.  They might be nephew and niece of Mary?
 
Arthur, now age 18, is lodging in Broad Street, March and is working as a Grocer's Apprentice.
 
This is a death record of Thomas at age 60:
 
Deaths Sep 1880  
Russell  Thomas  60  N. Witchford  3b 363 
 
Marian  

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 5/6/2008 8:46 PM
Wayne - these are the births of the children:
 
Births Dec 1847    
RUSSELL  Daniel Crowden     Ely  14 70
 
Births Mar 1853
Russell  William Crowden     Ely  3b 559
 
Births Dec 1859
RUSSELL  George Tagg     N Witchford  3b 557      
RUSSELL  Susan Crowden    
N Witchford  3b 557   
 
Looks like George and Susan were twins!   

Births Sep 1862 
RUSSELL  Arthur     N Witchford  3b 545
 
Births Mar 1866  
Russell  Herbert     N. Witchford  3b 609
 
I also found two earlier birth/death records (below) for William Crowden Russell and Susan Crowden Russell who I think did not survive.  It was customary to name later children after the deceased ones. 
 
 
Births Jun 1846  
RUSSELL  William Crowden     Ely  14 75
+++
Deaths Jun 1848  
Russell  William Crowden     Ely  14 51

Births Mar 1852 
RUSSELL  Susan Crowden     Ely  3b 558
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Deaths Jun 1852  
Russell  Susan Crowden    Ely  3b 359
 
I shall keep searching.
 
Marian
 
 
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 5/6/2008 8:52 PM
.........and one more.
 
Births Mar 1858  
Russell  George Tagg     N Witchford  3b 585
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Deaths Mar 1858   
Russell  George Tagg    N. Witchford  3b 412
 
Marian

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 5/6/2008 9:18 PM
Wayne - On the 1861 census, Thomas and Mary had another daughter Mary F. Russell born c1855.  Here is her birth record.  Sadly she must have died age 11.
 
Births Mar 1855   
Russell  Mary Frances     Ely  3b 541
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Deaths Jun 1866  
Russell  Mary F  11  N. Witchford  3b 369
 
Marian

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 5/6/2008 9:37 PM
Wayne -
 
In 1851 we find Thomas and Mary living in Hitches Street, Littleport.  Thomas is 31 and his occupation at that time was Miller and Grocer.  Mary is 29.  Children: Daniel three and Mary one year old.
 
Then going back to 1841 we find Thomas living with - most likely - his brother Daniel and his wife Sarah and family in Wimblington.  All ages in this census were rounded down to the nearest five years.
 
Thomas Russell 20 Miller
Daniel Russell 25 Miller and Baker
Sarah Russell 20
Mary Russell 2
Sarah Russell 10 months
 
Unfortunately, it doesn't look as though we are going to find his father on the census, especially as we don't know his name.
 
Marian

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 5/6/2008 9:50 PM
Well here we are, Thomas's parents:
 
 
THOMAS RUSSELL
 Christening:  12 SEP 1819   Doddington, Cambridge, England 
Parents:
  Father:  WILLIAM RUSSELL  Family
  Mother:  MARY 
 
 
Marian

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 5/8/2008 10:49 AM
Hello Wayne
 
There were one or two William Russells born in Cambridgeshire around 1795, so to be sure of the right parents you would need to obtain Thomas's baptism certificate.
 
Marian

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 5/8/2008 10:54 AM
Wayne - a few more snippets for you here.
 
I think this is the Daniel Russell that we found, who might well be Thomas's brother.  His wife was Sarah Fisher:
 
Daniel Russell
 Birth:  1814   Wimblington, Cambridge, England  
Marriages:
  Spouse:  Sarah Fisher
  Marriage:  18 OCT 1837   Doddington, Cambridge, England
 
Daniel's christening:
 
DANIEL RUSSELL
 Christening:  23 MAR 1817   Doddington, Cambridge, England 
 
Parents:
  Father:  WILLIAM RUSSELL  Family
  Mother:  MARY 
 
This was the lady we found on one of the censuses:

Births Jun 1875   
RUSSELL  Rosa Kezia     Wisbeach  3b 624

Marian



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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 5/8/2008 11:01 AM
Wayne
 
Just to recap, here are the generations we have, starting with Edwin and going back:
 
1.  Edwin Jack Russell 1932
2.  Arthur Thomas Russell 1899  =  Lilian Wrighton 
3.  Arthur Russell 1863  =  1st wife Esther
                                     =  2nd wife Christiana
4.  Thomas Russell 1820  =  Mary Crowden
5.  William Russell c1790  =  Mary
 
If I can find any more details I will post here.
 
Marian

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From: MSN Nicknamewat4jesus1Sent: 5/16/2008 9:24 PM
Thanks marian, that was sure good reading thanks very much for all your effort Wayne

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