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This is my father in law, RUSSELL, Edwin Jack born 22/04/32 in Leicester. He married STEVENS, Molly born 16/06/32 in Leicester. His brother and sisters are as follow; Terence Wilfred born in Leicester, Kathline Mary married (Witmore) born in Huntingdon cambs, and Pamala Christine born in Leicester. Hope you are able to help, Wayne |
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hi Marian, i trust you are well, i take it that you cant find anymore info like us, well i want to just say thank you for all your work, it was really appreaciated, Many thanks indeed. Wayne |
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Hello Wayne Thank you for your message. I have not given up on your search. I have been away for a few days, and have only just returned this evening. If you could let me know who you specifically would like to search for next, I will be happy to help you further. There are so many directions we could take, but I want to know which line you are most keen to follow next. Marian |
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Hi marian, sorry i thought it came to a stop, but if you can go on it would be interesting, what i would like if possible is who is arthurs father and his father and so on, and if you get brothers and siters on the way back it would be great, Many thanks Wayne |
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OK Wayne, will do. I am involved with other searches at the moment, but as soon as I get a chance I will get back to yours again. So please bear with me. Rest assured you are not forgotten. Marian Manager |
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Hello Wayne I have found Arthur Russell Senior in 1871 with his parents, Thomas and Mary, and four brothers including little Herbert! Living at Granford Drove, West Fen, March, Cambridgeshire: Thomas Russell 51 born Wimblington, Cambs. c1820 Farmer of 143 acres employing one man owning 56 acres included in the above total acreage Mary Russell 49 born March, Cambs. c1822 Farmer's Wife Children: Daniel Crowden Russell 23 Son Unmarried Farmer's Son b Littleport c1848 William Crowden Russell 18 Son b Littleport c1853 George Tagg Russell 11 Son b March c1860 Arthur Russell 8 Son b March c1863 Herbert Russell 5 Son b March c1866 All the places are very near each other, looking at the map. I have also found Thomas and Mary's marriage in 1845 and - you guessed it - her maiden name was Crowden: Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Jun 1845 Crowden Mary N Witchford 14 181 Russell Thomas Nth Witchford 14 181 I will keep digging. Marian |
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Hello Wayne Continuing on, ten years later in 1881 Mary is 59 and widowed (see death record below). She is still living at Grandford, and is listed as a Farmer employing 3 men and a woman. Living with her are sons George Tagg Russell 21, Herbert 15, and also a daughter Susan Crowden Russell 21. Living next door are William Crowden age 22, Farmer of 40 acres and his sister Mary Jane Crowden 32, both b Wimblington. They might be nephew and niece of Mary? Arthur, now age 18, is lodging in Broad Street, March and is working as a Grocer's Apprentice. This is a death record of Thomas at age 60: Deaths Sep 1880 Russell Thomas 60 N. Witchford 3b 363 Marian |
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Wayne - these are the births of the children: Births Dec 1847 RUSSELL Daniel Crowden Ely 14 70 Births Mar 1853 Russell William Crowden Ely 3b 559 Births Dec 1859 RUSSELL George Tagg N Witchford 3b 557 RUSSELL Susan Crowden N Witchford 3b 557 Looks like George and Susan were twins! Births Sep 1862 RUSSELL Arthur N Witchford 3b 545 Births Mar 1866 Russell Herbert N. Witchford 3b 609 I also found two earlier birth/death records (below) for William Crowden Russell and Susan Crowden Russell who I think did not survive. It was customary to name later children after the deceased ones. Births Jun 1846 RUSSELL William Crowden Ely 14 75 +++ Deaths Jun 1848 Russell William Crowden Ely 14 51 Births Mar 1852 RUSSELL Susan Crowden Ely 3b 558 +++ Deaths Jun 1852 Russell Susan Crowden Ely 3b 359 I shall keep searching. Marian |
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.........and one more. Births Mar 1858 Russell George Tagg N Witchford 3b 585 +++ Deaths Mar 1858 Russell George Tagg N. Witchford 3b 412 Marian |
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Wayne - On the 1861 census, Thomas and Mary had another daughter Mary F. Russell born c1855. Here is her birth record. Sadly she must have died age 11. Births Mar 1855 Russell Mary Frances Ely 3b 541 +++ Deaths Jun 1866 Russell Mary F 11 N. Witchford 3b 369 Marian |
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Wayne - In 1851 we find Thomas and Mary living in Hitches Street, Littleport. Thomas is 31 and his occupation at that time was Miller and Grocer. Mary is 29. Children: Daniel three and Mary one year old. Then going back to 1841 we find Thomas living with - most likely - his brother Daniel and his wife Sarah and family in Wimblington. All ages in this census were rounded down to the nearest five years. Thomas Russell 20 Miller Daniel Russell 25 Miller and Baker Sarah Russell 20 Mary Russell 2 Sarah Russell 10 months Unfortunately, it doesn't look as though we are going to find his father on the census, especially as we don't know his name. Marian |
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Well here we are, Thomas's parents: THOMAS RUSSELL Christening: 12 SEP 1819 Doddington, Cambridge, England Parents: Father: WILLIAM RUSSELL Family Mother: MARY Marian |
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Hello Wayne There were one or two William Russells born in Cambridgeshire around 1795, so to be sure of the right parents you would need to obtain Thomas's baptism certificate. Marian |
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Wayne - a few more snippets for you here. I think this is the Daniel Russell that we found, who might well be Thomas's brother. His wife was Sarah Fisher: Daniel Russell Birth: 1814 Wimblington, Cambridge, England Marriages: Spouse: Sarah Fisher Marriage: 18 OCT 1837 Doddington, Cambridge, England Daniel's christening: DANIEL RUSSELL Christening: 23 MAR 1817 Doddington, Cambridge, England Parents: Father: WILLIAM RUSSELL Family Mother: MARY This was the lady we found on one of the censuses: Births Jun 1875 RUSSELL Rosa Kezia Wisbeach 3b 624 Marian
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Wayne Just to recap, here are the generations we have, starting with Edwin and going back: 1. Edwin Jack Russell 1932 2. Arthur Thomas Russell 1899 = Lilian Wrighton 3. Arthur Russell 1863 = 1st wife Esther = 2nd wife Christiana 4. Thomas Russell 1820 = Mary Crowden 5. William Russell c1790 = Mary If I can find any more details I will post here. Marian |
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Thanks marian, that was sure good reading thanks very much for all your effort Wayne
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