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From: MSN NicknameChloe-Cat  (Original Message)Sent: 11/7/2008 7:48 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknamenighthomes</NOBR>  (Original Message) Sent: 07/11/2008 03:16
born 18th january 1881 brentford london england
died 14th december 1957 whangarei new zealand
buried maunu cemetery whangarei nz
father cyrus lewis. mother  mary ann llamas?


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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 11/7/2008 10:34 PM
Hello Warren
 
I am not sure what info you already have, and whether you have access to the censuses.  Anyway, these below are my findings so far.
 
On the 1881 census of England living in Ealing, Middlesex is Cyrus W. Lewis age 4 born Brentford c1877.  Father Cyrus Lewis occupation Hairdresser born town of Monmouth c1830.  Mother Mary A. born Richmond, Surrey c1838.  Siblings Joseph 18, Annie 14, John 12, Ada 10, Clara 8, Maud 6 and Frank 1.  All children born Brentford.
 
In 1891, Cyrus and Mary are still alive, and are listed with Clara 18, William 14, Frank 12, Emily 8 and Beatrice 6. 
 
I have a feeling that William is actually Cyrus junior using his middle name.  What do you think?
 
In 1901, Cyrus L. Lewis is age 71 and Mary 63.  It says Cyrus was born in Mayhill, Monmouthshire c1830.  Frank is still at home age 21.
 
It seems that Cyrus Lammas Lewis died 9 years after that census.  I found this record:
 
Deaths Mar 1910   
LEWIS  Cyrus Lammas  Age 78  Brentford  3a 75
 
 
More to follow in next message.
 
Marian
Manager
 
 

 
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 11/7/2008 10:42 PM
I found Cyrus and Mary Ann's marriage in 1877:
 
Marriages Mar 1877  
 
CHILDS  Mary Ann    St. Saviour  1d 59   
Lewis  Cyrus Lamas     St. Saviour  1d 59 
 
But there was also another marriage in 1852:
 
Marriages Dec 1852 

CURRIE  Clara    Brentford  3a 64   
Hare  William     Brentford  3a 64   
HUMPHREYS  Caroline     Brentford  3a 64   
Lewis  Cyrus Lammas     Brentford  3a 64   
 
 
The strange thing is that in 1861 he is listed on the census as living with wife Mary Ann age 23 and son George age 2.  I have investigated further to see if I could find a death of his first wife and came up with these:
 
Deaths Mar 1856  
LEWIS  Clara     Brentford  3a 44   
 
Deaths Jun 1856   
Lewis  Clara     Brentford  3a 41
 
Could one of them have been his first wife and the other his daughter? 
 
More to follow.
 
Marian
 

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 11/7/2008 11:04 PM
In 1841 Cyrus Lewis senior age 9 is living with his parents John and Hannah (both age 30) in Wyesham, Newton Dixton, Monmouthshire, Wales.  John is an Agricultural Labourer.  Cyrus' siblings are James 8, John 4, Elizabeth 2.
 
Ten years later in 1851 Cyrus is living in Brentford with his uncle and aunt, David and Sarah Okell / Odell / Ottell.  I see that David is also a hairdresser, born in Warwick.
 
We found this on the LDS site:
 
CYRUS LAMMAS LEWIS
 Christening:  21 AUG 1831   Dixton Newton, Monmouth, England
Parents:
  Father:  JOHN LEWIS  
  Mother:  HANNAH
 
 
Cyrus Lammas' marriage to Mary Ann Childs:
 
CYRUS LAMAS LEWIS
Marriages:
  Spouse:  MARY ANN CHILDS
  Marriage:  01 JAN 1877   Christ Church, Southwark, London, England
 
And
 
JOHN LEWIS
 Birth:  About 1768   Of  Trevethin, Monmouth, Wales
Marriages:
  Spouse:  MRS. ANN LEWIS 
 
Hannah and Anna are often the same name

Dixon Parish Records of Monmouth -- listed is a Cyrus Lewis christened in 1831
Father John Lewis
Mother Hannah

Lammas Lewis Christened 1831 father John Lewis and Mother Hannah
James Lewis Christened 1833 Father John Lewis Mother Hannah
 
(see 1841 census above - brother James).
 
Marian

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 11/7/2008 11:06 PM
This looks like the marriage of Cyrus William Lewis Junior who was born 1877:  No way of knowing, with the actual certificate, which one is his wife, Sarah or Alice.  But you may know this already?
 
 
Marriages Jun 1907  
 
FITZJOHN  Sarah    Brentford  3a 299   
LEWIS  Cyrus William     Brentford  3a 299   
SMITH  Alice Ellen     Brentford  3a 299   
 
 
Marian

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From: MSN NicknamenighthomesSent: 11/9/2008 3:28 AM
Hi Marian,         Many thanks for your reply.You have been most helpful. It sounds as if Cyrus William preferred his second name. I have an enquiry regarding Edith Mary's husband. I have some information about him.
His name is William Edward Holmes.Born 6th June1868 at 143 Broad Street, Pendleton ,England.He was A farmer in Manchester . He was accidently killed on board SS Haimon 21st December 1922.His father was William Holmes.Mother Sarah Ann (nee Heywood). Siblings Annie, Florence, Ernest,Sarah ann, Clara, George Christmas.
            Regards, Marion ( Warrens wife)

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 11/9/2008 4:30 PM
Hi Marion
 
Please see under Surname H. where I will post any findings.
 
Marian
Manager

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 11/9/2008 4:41 PM
Marion - I think this might be the child Clara who died in 1856 (see message 3).
 
 
Births Jun 1855   (>99%)
Lewis  Clara    Brentford  3a 54
 
 
Marian
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From: MSN NicknamenighthomesSent: 11/17/2008 7:32 PM
Hi Marian,
          I have no info on Cyrus William Lewis's wife .Just wondered if you could find out more. I know that Annie married a Harry Mather, as she came to New Zealand.Also my mother had letters etc. that mentioned that there was another sister of Edith Mary's, called Maria. I also wonder if you could find out who the other siblings married.
            Regards Marion

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 11/17/2008 8:39 PM
OK Marion, I will run a search and see what I can find.
 
Marian
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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 11/17/2008 8:52 PM
Marion - I am wondering if you have seen all my findings on William Edward Holmes?  They are on the H surname board.
 
Marian
Manager

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 11/17/2008 9:49 PM
Hi Marion
 
I have firstly been searching out those marriages, and have found some possibilities for some of them.   Not an easy task!  However, this is what I have come up with.  In many cases, there is more than one marriage listed on a page, so there is no way of telling which spouse matches which.  The only way of knowing for sure is to order the certificate.
 
 
Marriages Mar 1885    
LEWIS  Annie    Hendon  3a 168   
Shute  Henry     Hendon  3a 168  
 
 
Marriages Sep 1892    
Lewis  Maude Marie     Hendon  3a 238   
Munce  William James S     Hendon  3a 238   
PHILLIPS  James Dowell     Hendon  3a 238
 

Marriages Sep 1892   
FARMER  John    Brentford  3a 233    
LEWIS  Maude Marie     Hendon  3a 233     
Welsh  William     Brentford  3a 233
 
 
Marriages Dec 1900    
Brooker  Alice Maria    Brentford  3a 132   
Lewis  Frank Walter     Brentford  3a 132   
Steer  Daisy     Brentford  3a 132
 

Marriages Sep 1901   
DOWLING  Elizabeth Ann    Brentford  3a 130   
Lewis  Frank     Brentford  3a 130   
Mottram  Amy Alice     Brentford  3a 130
 
 
 
Marriages Jun 1910    
GOLDSMID  Gina Ethel M     Willesden  3a 366   
JONES  Esther Mary     Willesden  3a 366   
Lewis  Frank Joseph     Brentford  3a 366
 

Marriages Sep 1904    
Bazley  George    Brentford  3a 282   
Heath  John     Brentford  3a 282   
Lewis  Emily Kate     Brentford  3a 282
 
 
Marriages Jun 1905    
JOSLIN  Thomas John     Brentford  3a 124   
Lewis  Beatrice Alice     Brentford  3a 124   
STOKES  Herbert John     Brentford  3a 124
 
 
 
Marian
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