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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKate  (Original Message)Sent: 9/1/2008 11:47 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknamecarolyn441</NOBR>  (Original Message) Sent: 2008/09/01 01:33 AM
I am looking for details of John Joseph Markham and his wife, Mary Sullivan Markham who lived at Toonagh Clooney above Quin, County Clare in the l830s.
 
I have no life events for them or where they are buried.  John Joseph had 13 acres at Toonagh, which he farmed with his brother or father in law Pat Sullvan according to the 1825 Tithe reports.  He had 5 sons (one died as a babe)  Michael, Patrick, Daniel and Martin came to Australia in the l850s and l860s.  He also had 3 girls Mary who may have stayed at home in Ireland, Bridget and Anne came to Australia in l860s.
 
Any information appreciated.   When Martin our line came to Australia, he had a reference from a Father Crabb so that may indicate the church in which they worshipped.  Many thanks Carolyn


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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 9/1/2008 12:43 PM
Hi Carolyn
 
I will see what I can do to help you in this search.  So please keep checking on this board for any findings I make.
 
It sounds as though they were a Catholic family.
 
Marian
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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 9/1/2008 1:50 PM
Hi Carolyn
 
Please could you advise me approximate date of birth/marriage of your ancestors, as we would need this as a basis for a search.
 
Thank you.
 
Marian
Manager

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 9/5/2008 12:06 AM
Carolyn - These are all the Markhams and Sullivans listed in Griffiths Valuation for Clooney, Co. Clare.
 
Surname         First Name     Townland                 Parish      County
Markham         Margaret         Maghera                   Clooney     Clare
Markham         Michael          Glen North                Clooney     Clare
Markhan         Patrick          Maghera                   Clooney     Clare
 

Sullivan        Daniel           Glen North                Clooney     Clare
Sullivan        James            Garraun                   Clooney     Clare
Sullivan        Michael          Muckinish                 Clooney     Clare
Sullivan        Michael          Sraheen                   Clooney     Clare
Sullivan        Patrick          Glen North                Clooney     Clare
 
 
Marian
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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 9/5/2008 12:07 AM
These are the only deaths listed on the Irish Family History Foundation site at present, although I hasten to add that Co. Clare records are not yet in the database. 
 
The Clare/Limerick county border changed over the years, so don't rule these out altogether.
 
Action Source Surname First Name Year County
 Civil Death Markham John Joseph 1911 Co. Limerick
 
Action Source Surname First Name Year County
 Civil Death Markham Mary 1870 Co. Limerick
 
 
Marian
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From: MSN Nicknamecarolyn441Sent: 9/5/2008 7:04 AM
Hi Marion, it is estimated that John Joseph Markham was born about l800 and his wife the same era.  They would have been married about l820s and the youngest child born l840 (Martin Markham).  In the l825 Griffiths Valuation I found a John Joseph Markham spelt Marcum with Pat Sullivan as farming 13and half acres at Toonagh, Clooney Clare.
 
The John Joseph Markham across the border in Limerick sounded promising but I dont know if he would have lived to l00 years plus especially in those times.
 
It is believed that a daughter Mary stayed at home with the oldies, when her siblings came to Australia.  Thank you Carolyn

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From: MSN Nicknamecarolyn441Sent: 9/5/2008 7:13 AM
P.S. They were a Catholic family. Carolyn

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 9/5/2008 2:11 PM
Hi Carolyn
 
The John Joe Markham d. 1911 could easily have been a descendant.
 
Marian
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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 9/5/2008 4:39 PM
Carolyn - This is what came up when I ran a parent search for John Joseph Markham and Mary Sullivan.
 
Marian
Manager
 
 
Martin Markham Pedigree
  Male    
   
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Event(s):
 Birth:  1843   , Clare, Ireland
 
 Christening: 
 Death:  19 NOV 1913   Paddington By Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
 
 Burial: 
   
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Parents:
  Father:  John Markham  Family
  Mother:  Mary Sullivan 

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From: MSN Nicknamecarolyn441Sent: 9/8/2008 2:57 AM
Hi Marion, firstly the John Joe Markham could not have been a descendant as all the boys came out to Australia in the 1850s and l860s.  it is believed only one daughter Mary remained in Ireland, but we think that she may have immigrated too and are checking this in OZ.
 
We know all about Martin Markham he is my husbands great grandfather and it is his parents who remained in Ireland that we seek information about.
 
Any other clues, thanks for your assistance, Carolyn.

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From: MSN Nicknamecarolyn441Sent: 10/13/2008 7:06 AM
Hi,  Any more Clues on where I could search.  Thanks Carolyn

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From: MSN Nicknamecarolyn441Sent: 12/22/2008 9:00 AM
Any further clues on this one please thanks carolyn.

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