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Surnames W to Z : WILEY/WYLIE Robert
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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKate  (Original Message)Sent: 9/1/2008 11:52 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknamePammy·</NOBR>  (Original Message) Sent: 2008/09/01 06:20 AM

I am tracing my family and longing to find more about my forebears in Ireland. I know ROBERT WILEY married MARY McGRATH and so far have found they had at least 4 children ROBERT, JOHN, JAMES (my great grandfather), SARAH and possibly BERNARD.

 Robert and John came to Australia in 1856, James came in 1859, Sarah arrived with her husband John White in 1864. I know Bernard was present with Robert (Snr.) when he died in Aghnahoo Glebe, County Donegal, Ireland in 1878 but certificate only says Bernard was with Robert when he died - not that he was a son. The Death Certificate states Robert was married (not widowed). I would dearly love to find Mary's death certificate and therefore more about her and also particulars of any other children or anything more about the family.


It appears the Wileys came to Ireland from Scotland as part of the "Ulster plantation" but that hasn't been proved.  I am new on this Board so hope I have set this out correctly.
Pam.



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From: MSN NicknamePammy·Sent: 9/10/2008 9:18 AM
Hi Mike,
Thank you for all that information.
The family Sarah, Elizabeth, Eliza, Margaret A. Daniel Augustus etc.etc. are the children of Robert Wiley and Isabella Mundey.
Robert Wiley (son of James) (James is brother of the above Robert) married Mary Synott & are my gr. grandparents.

I am very interested in the births, marriages from Fermanagh - the Brendan Wiley born Antrim could well be the Brendan who was with his father Robert in Aghnahoo Glebe when he (Robert) died (I have that death certificate). Neighbours who remembered the family said Brendan died in the beginning of the century.

At various times I have looked at the I.G.I. but have only found James Wiley married to Mary Synott (Lynott their spelling). I'll have another look and see if I can find brother Robert and his family.

Pardon my ignorance but what does I.F.H.F. stand for? I should know but not sure. Is there anywhere I can access it?

Once again thank you for all your efforts.

Pam

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 9/10/2008 5:57 PM
Hi Pam Its the Irish Family History Foundation,I guessed you would Have those Details.But added to be sure.This is how to get on the irish family history foundation.
Its free to join.But they charge 5 euro for records.
When new ones are added they will notify you
 
Mike
 

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 9/10/2008 6:20 PM
Pam I was on the Proni site And run a will Search,I found a Robert Wiley In
Gortcormican County Donegal
 
Full Abstract:
Letters of Administration of the personal estate of Robert Wiley late of Gortcormican County Donegal Farmer who died 26 November 1890 at same place were granted at Londonderry to Ephraim Wiley of Gortcormican Farmer the Brother. 
Gortcormican in the Knowhead and Muff District

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 9/10/2008 6:31 PM
Pam on the site where Your Family is Mentioned He mentions Knowhead and Muff
 
 
Im Wondering if its the Same Robert
 
Mike

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From: MSN NicknamePammy·Sent: 9/12/2008 6:35 AM
I had seen that Maggie's irish kin site and even have some notes published on it but unfortunately I don't think my Robert is there - although a lot of the first names are ones our family used over the years.  My Robert Wiley was definitely married to Mary McGrath & this is mentioned on the various shipping lists when Robert, John and James came to Australia.
Another member of the family Sarah Wiley born c 1840 married John White in 1860 and came to Australia on Board "Wanata" in 1864.  She also mentions Father Robert, Mother Mary McGrath and her 3 brothers already in Australia.
I really appreciate all the information you have provided (some of which I have yet to follow up).  I visited  the Catholic church in Pettigo some years ago and there was not a single Wiley to be found.  If I get back there again I'll try Belleek and Lettercran.
Thanks again Mike.
Pam

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 9/12/2008 6:46 AM
Hi PAM,One thing we Have to remember,Robert may have lived in Pettigo.But may have been Buried where his Parents were Or where he was Born.
This Happened to My Father and His Parents.Lived in Clare Buried in Tipperary
There are a Lot of Wiley Families in the Neighbouring counties so it makes me feel the were originally from there.
So yes its worth Checking Belleek and Lettercran

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 9/12/2008 8:32 PM
Pam i have Found out Most McGrath,s In the Pettigo Area Were from Fermanagh Side.There is a Castle Called McGrath Castle.Or McGraw.
On The Border,
 
Not Sure if this will help
 
Mike

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From: MSN NicknamePammy·Sent: 9/12/2008 10:02 PM
Hi Mike,
My grandfather, ROBERT WILEY born in Australia in 1867 married an ELIZABETH McGRATH.  Elizabeth's father Bernard arrived in Australia in 1840 at the age of ten with his parents and siblings.  That McGrath family came fromTyrone.  So I am doubly interrested in the McGraths.
Pam   

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 9/12/2008 10:23 PM
Its strange As i found a marriage of a Mary McGRATH in 1854 in the IFHF.Born in Tyrone.
 
Mike

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 10/5/2008 9:34 AM
Hi Pammy I noticed in the Igi they List the Marriage of  Bernard McGrath to Mary Hartigan
 
Husband
 Bernard McGRATH Pedigree
 
 
  Birth:  About 1830  , Tyrone, Ireland
Christening:    
Marriage:  11 AUG 1856  R C Chapel, Jamberoo, New South Wales, Australia
Death:    
Burial:    
 
 
 
 
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Wife
 Mary Ann HARTIGAN Pedigree
 
 
  Birth:  About 1832  Of R C Chapel, Jamberoo, New South Wales, Australia
Christening:    
Marriage:  11 AUG 1856  R C Chapel, Jamberoo, New South Wales, Australia
Death:    
Burial:    
 
 
 
 
 
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Children
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1.   Ann McGRATH Pedigree
   Female  
   
   Birth:  1857  Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Christening:    
Death:  1857  
Burial:    
 
 
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2.   Francis McGRATH Pedigree
   Male  
   
   Birth:  22 FEB 1859  Jamberoo, New South Wales, Australia
Christening:    
Death:    
Burial:    
 
 
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3.   Dennis McGRATH Pedigree
   Male  
   
   Birth:  1861  Kiami, , New South Wales, Australia
Christening:    
Death:  1861  
Burial:    
 
 
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4.   Margaret McGRATH Pedigree
   Female  
   
   Birth:  1864  Braidwood, New South Wales, Australia
Christening:    
Death:    
Burial:    
 
 
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5.   Mark McGRATH Pedigree
   Male  
   
   Birth:  1866  Braidwood, New South Wales, Australia
Christening:    
Death:    
Burial:    
 
 
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6.   Elizabeth McGRATH Pedigree
   Female  
   
   Birth:  1867  Kiami, , New South Wales, Australia
Christening:    
Death:    
Burial:   
 
 

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 10/5/2008 9:36 AM
PAM i need to check further on this but they also list a Bernard McGrath  Born 1830 Tyrone Mother was Margaret Campbell No Father listed

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 10/5/2008 9:48 AM
Pammy Forget the Margaret Campbell one Found them in Rootsweb,there is some excellent family history listed on the McGrath family
 
Name: Bernard Michael McGrath
Sex: M
Birth: 1829 in CountyTyrone Ireland
Death: 1913 in Braidwood
Burial: Braidwood
Father: Bernard McGrath b: ABT 1799 in County Tyrone Ireland
Mother: Bridget (Biddy) McCullion b: 1783 in County Tyrone Ireland
Marriage 1 Mary Ann Hartigan b: ABT 1834 in County Cork, Ireland
Married: 11 AUG 1856 in Jamberoo R/C Chapel
Children
 Francis McGrath b: 1859 in Kiama
 Dennis McGrath b: 1861 in Kiama
 Elizabeth McGrath b: 1863 in Jamberoo

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From: MSN NicknamePammy·Sent: 10/8/2008 12:19 AM
Hello again,  sorry for being slow in replying - I have been away for several days.
You certainly are thorough in your searching and I can't thank you enough.
 
The line you discovered on Rootsweb is one of my McGrath lines - Bernard McGrath and Mary Hartigan are my great grandparents.
The "other" McGrath line is Mary McGrath who married Robert Wylie/Wiley, my gr. gr. grandparents.
 
Once again thank you for all the searching you are doing for me - certainly above and beyond the call of duty!!! 
 
Pam.
 

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From: MSN NicknamePammy·Sent: 10/8/2008 12:21 AM
Oh, in my last email I forgot to mention - LDS (IGI) have it wrong again - the correct members of the family are the ones in the Rootsweb tree.
Pam.

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 10/8/2008 6:53 AM
Hi Pam I guessed the Rootsweb Tree would be More Correct.The thing is with the LDS a lot of submitters just add info they recieve from others without checking.
But it is till one of the best sites
 

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