| Re: Tylerguy et all
Firsly, let me suggest that moving this thread to general is perhaps inappropriate, as the discussions within are deeply political. However, you're the moderator Seadog. 
Quote: | Originally Posted by Tylerguy I cited a web page to back my claims, i asked if you could do the same, not toss out numbers arbitrarily. |
Try the CAIN website Tyler.
Quote: | Also, are you saying that if the British forces where[sic] to withdraw they would have to start shooting civilians to like meet a quota or something? Excuse me but that’s ridiculous. |
I don't follow you. It seems to me that you're putting words into my mouth, yes?
Quote: | I can guarantee that if the Island nation of Ireland were to vote for the unification of Ireland under a united republic, free from British rule, that the outcome would be yes. Bringing us too... |
That may be so Tyler. But, asides from my belief that the people of Northern Ireland should be asked about any idea of a change in its constitution first, still the people of the island have voted AGAINST violence - by a huge majority. So a 'war' is not wanted. Sinn Féin and the IRA have also recognised this - thus the ceasefire.
Quote: | As you were saying about the partition of the island in 1920. That was my point, who gave them this right to split up the country along those lines, they hold no historical value or reason to be treated differently. |
Actually that is an argument in itself. It is well-known that Ulster always considered itself different in many ways to the rest of the island. And before you say it, I am perfectly aware of the status of the counties Cavan, Monaghan and Donegal.
What or who gave "them" the right to split up the island? The people I assume. There was much resistance to a split from the UK. As a compromise, the Anglo-Irish Treaty signed over 26 of the counties as an independant state. This was agreed to by all interested parties.
Quote: | It's as absurd as splitting up a country every election based on who voted for who, rather then treating it as a whole. |
Indeed. And yet this is similar to what happened when the 26 counties were split from the country in the first place.
Quote: | And as for that last bit about me being "ignorant of unionism" I was merely using it as an example of someone who would want to remain part of the UK, not a microscopic representation of all unionism. and in my example they happened to be British nationalist. |
British Nationalist? That'll be unionists then. But you still specifically mentioned a "stoutly English household."
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