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From: MSN Nickname«jÓñi»  (Original Message)Sent: 10/2/2008 2:13 PM
Maybe I should change my personalized plate that says Ugly Bty before I show my van to buyers? LOL  Wouldn't want to prejudice them against her!
 
Well I got the ad placed on autotrader.com for $29.  I went ahead and asked $6,200 since the book value is $6,580.  Scott was thinking we'd ask $5,000 and anything more than $4,500 would be gravy but I figured why not go for the entire loan payoff?  Yeah it was depressing hearing what it may be worth from dealers but it's worth a shot anyway. We can afford to the loan payment awhile longer if we end up not being able to sell it quickly at that price and this way we may actually end up not spending any cash to fnish the payoff.  $6200 is right in line with the other Villagers out there - lower than most dealers.  I paid extra for a thumbnail of it in our driveway - hoping the driveway picture attracts people to click since it makes it obvious it's not a dealer picture.  Some people might prefer that, I don't know.  I probably would.  You figure a private seller isn't as dishonest even though there's no warranty.
 
Crap I just realized I need to call the insurance company to get insurance on the Cobalt.
 
I'm fighting going back to bed.  I'm not that tired so I need to stay up.  I'm going to go shower and then go shopping I think.  Need to get new floormats for the van since the ones that came with it were just rug scraps.  Also going to get floormats for the Cobalt as a surprise for Scott.  And maybe a new dishdrainer - exciting stuff!! :-) 
 
Man I stink!


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From: SaraSent: 10/2/2008 2:43 PM
Good luck with the van!! Good job on getting it posted ASAP (unlike my dh...) I hope you get lots of interest soon. I think having a picture makes a huge difference.
 
Congrats on getting the new car (and blue! woohoo)
 
Yeah, I'm fighting the urge to just veg. I should be getting blood work done but I really hate it and am feeling blah. I'd be afraid of puking.
 
Ooo, exciting shopping trip! I need to go find some superglue from the dollar store and maybe see what I can find for stockings.
 
My house is slowly getting there. I vacuumed the living room but there's still junk on the table and the desk is pretty messy. Still chipping away at the never ending pile of dishes.
 
I'm feeling really bad today, lots of different reasons. I'm just going to list them all and see if that helps.
 
-snapped at Gavin this morning cause he was just being completely stupid, also, he almost got hit by a car last night because he crossed the road without looking. I don't know what would have happened if he did get hit cause it most likely would be on my shoulders though I don't feel the need to hold an almost 10 yr old's hand.
 
-found out Samantha broke her ankle. Her mom asked me to walk home with her, kinda. Well, that day, we were going to the park so I just walked across the field with her. i guess she climbed the fence and then fell onto her backpack and broke her ankle. So, I feel kinda responsible which is kind of stupid but I worry about what her mom thinks... does she blame me at all?!
 
-I just feel bad for my kids. I guess I'm feeling like a bad mom and like I'm not spending much quality time with them. i've been snappy and distracted and I hate it.
 
-Feeling bad about the situation with my parents. It came up this morning cause Andrew says that if this baby is a girl, the middle name will be Douglas (I'm fairly sure he's serious) or if I won't let that happen, he'll change Timmy's middle name to Douglas from Gilbert, my dad's name. What a jerk. That just completely ticks me off. I said, Timothy will always have YOUR last name which is from your dad so I don't care how things are between my parents right now, we're not doing that. Nor, will I subject a daughter to having the middle name, Douglas.
 
-the baby's heartbeat was 170 yesterday. Now, heartbeat was a good indicator with my kids so if it's consistently that high, I'm fairly sure we'll be having a girl which somewhat disappoints me for Timmy. I wouldn't mind another girl but for Timmy to be the only boy, I'd feel really bad. plus, I have no clue what we'd do for rooms. Ahhh
 
-I'm feeling stupid for putting off calling the person about the special lunches at school. She called Sat. when I was napping off a migraine. What's my excuse? Sickness?! And, I'll probably put it off again today.
 
-Dumb bloodwork. I should just suck it up and get it over with today but I want to do it on a day when I don't already feel woozy and I'm kinda afraid of driving afterwards with just Timmy. So, maybe waiting til Sat would be better cause I could go alone and make sure I have a big breakfast beforehand. Plus, I need to suck back a lot of water.
 
Hmm, I think that's about it. Now I'm feeling really sleepy. I've got thawed out strawberries in the microwave so I should make my smoothie.

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From: MSN Nickname«jÓñi»Sent: 10/2/2008 3:17 PM
Andrew's feelings are hurt.  Don't stress right now - by the time the baby is born things could be completely different.  He can't change Timmy's name without your consent anywa.  And you'll think I'm insane, but when you said Douglas for a daughter's middle name I immediately thought "I actually like that."  As long as her first name is very feminine and not ambiguous.  Or add an extra S and people will assume it's a family surname and not somebody's first name that she's named after!  But don't worry about it at all right now.  He's just blowing off steam in an immature way.
 
Did you talk to Gavin's mother about him running into the street.  You're right, you'd probably be responsible even though there's nothing you could do about it.  You could subject him to holding hands if he keeps acting stupid.  He'd probably hate that. 
 
If you feel like a bad mom then shake it off and do something with the kids.  I know you feel terrible so the next time you don't feel awful do something with them instead of doing dishes or cleaning up.  I realize it's really hard to spend quality time with kids if you don't feel like it but in the long run it might make you feel a little better.  I'm completely snappy with mine right now too and feel awful.  I'm like Jekyll and Hyde.   I'm not consistently mean but the least little thing and I'm railing on them.  What can we do to stop this?!  I'm PMSing and you're also hormonal so we need to figure out a way to be nice :-)
 
Everything will work out - it always does doesn't it?  Especially logistical silly stuff like bedrooms.  I really wanted another baby yesterday and also have the room issue since my have definitely shown that they cannot share a room (or anything else!).  And I thought, well if I really want a baby who cares?  If it ends up in a porta-crib in my bedroom to keep the peace, whatever.  Scott actually agreed to another one including getting a vasectomy reversal - however I would only want to do it if we had enough money to not change the other kids' lives drastically and for me to stay home with the new one.  By the time I went to bed I had decided against it again - I want a baby and a toddler, and I LOVE my kids' ages right now but something about going thru everything again just felt tiring.  I've had a young child now for 18 years - part-time for part of that, true, but I've had the toys and the mess and the commitments and stuff for the entire 18 years, even when Erik wasn't physically here.  I keep going back and forth.  If Scott got a great job and we did this when I was say, 40, then I'd have a 9yo, 12yo, and 21yo.  Which would mean lots of help but a lonely youngest child who mostly knows his/her brothers as uncles.  But it would also mean I could have lots of one-on-one time.  And by the time the child was 4, I'd have a 16yo built-in probably responsible babysitter in Braeden (I'd still have to take Chane everywhere since Braeden will probably never be able to babysit Chane!).  And all my nieces and nephews would be a lot older so when the kid was 8 or so I'd have a ton of babysitters and he or she would be babied by lots of older kids.  Back and forth back and forth!
 
Anyway, like I said, it all works out eventually and once things smooth over with your parents Andrew will straighten out.  It's really hard for you to be in the middle - if you can nicely say that to him and to your parents, at least maybe they'll be more conscious of your feelings when they feel like bitching.
 
I'm showered with makeup and hair done, jeans on, and leaving for shopping.  See ya!

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From: MSN Nickname«jÓñi»Sent: 10/2/2008 3:29 PM

ps just had another thought.  i'm totally off my antidepressants (until i see my doctor in a few weeks) and you're trying to be.  when i'm not on them, things hurt me a lot more and also irritate me a lot more.  could that be part of what's going on with you too in addition to hormones?  like small things feel like little black clouds over me and i take things wrong that other people say - like i asked for more fundraiser booklets from the guy i'm dealing with on a fundraiser at the bonton store and his answer was "okay but you know these have cash value and unsold ones need to be returned."  i was very upset about that all day like he was accusing me of doing something underhanded like selling books and not using the money for the pack (none has to be returned to the bonton - all the money is ours to keep so it's not easy for them to regulate i'm sure).  luckily i was polite in my response since after all they ARE doing our pack a HUGE favor with this fundraiser but i was very hurt.  i told scott and he was ticked - then he read the email and said "joni, i didn't take it that way at all."  so even though i still see it that way, i'm noticing that i may be seeing things thru skewed emotional vision.  anther example - the school nurse called to say braeden's teacher sent him for an eye exam and he failed so he needs to see an eye doctor.  not only was i overly depressed about braeden's vision, but i felt like the nurse was being critical of my parenting when i said he saw an eye doctor a year ago and his vision was fine (i was trying to say in a messed up way that his color blindness sometimes affects how he sees other things, like if the marker his teacher uses on the white board is orange, to him it might not stand out as much as to a kid with regular vision).  but i took her attitude as critical.  i was depressed about his vision, hurt and mad about the nurse, and angered when i saw the form that asks what his vision before correction is and what eye problems he has - it's a form to be filled out by the eye doctor and my thought is "none of your freakin' business what is prescription or condition is, as long as we take care of him being able to see in the classroom that's all you need to know."  which is probably what i'm going to write in a more polite way in a letter but i just kept dwelling and dwelling and dwelling on it all day yesterday and the day before.  little stuff that just hangs on - i mean, my memory is awful so i won't even remember what it is that's bothering me for awhile but i'll know it's something and i'll have to think and go "oh yeah, that stupid vision form" and then i get mad or upset all over again.

so maybe it's just that we are blowing things out of proportion again?  or seeing things in a skewed way?  i notice that, at least in your posts, you've been a lot better with not getting your feelings hurt or taking things personally since you started the effexor so maybe going off of it is bringing those things to light again?


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From: SaraSent: 10/2/2008 6:36 PM
Well, the day isn't getting that much better. Got a message from my mom saying I need to pay the lawyer cause now it's an issue (uh, yeah, I got the letter saying I have $544 in outstanding fees on Sept. 11 so I have until Oct. 11 before they charge interest.) I was going to wait until we closed on the house on the 15th cause I didn't realize there was a 'due date' but instead, I'll just send the cheque today. I also wrote up one for my parents as I owe them $1200 in lawyer's fees. Yippee. That won't be sent til Oct. 14th though cause we'll use the line of credit to cover that and don't want to go into more debt before we close.
 
Sooo, that got me thinking about money and plus my parents. So, I'm having a VERY worried about money thing right now. I've never had a panic attack but I totally feel like I'm on the verge of one.
 
Oh yeah, plus the cat puked up liquid which reminds me of when he had the intestinal blockage. So, that has me worried about either spending lots of money (I think he also has some bloody poo?!) or having to put him down (he's such a good kitty though a butt-head who escapes when he's supposed to be an indoor cat.)
 
Which brings me to the next thing, I called to make the ultrasound appt. I have to have a full bladder (with Delaney, I remember crying so hard because it hurt so much to have to keep the pee in) and I'm worried they'll find something wrong.
 
Sooo, yes, I'm seeing that my full strength medication (which is just doubling the min. dose I'm one now) may be a tad bit beneficial cause I can NOT remember spiraling like this while on the medication.
 
But, talking to the midwife, I'm so freaked out. The only risk is withdrawl in the baby and that would mean having a ped. in the delivery room in case they need to give the baby medication or help it. Uh, yeah, that doesn't sound ok to me. So, of course, telling Andrew that, he's asking me when I'm coming off of it, aren't you already doing the skip a day thing? (obviously he forgets the couple of times I have done that and then spent the next day stuck on the couch or in bed and complaining about being dizzy, etc.) He's the one who suggested I get put on the medication in the first place and now is telling me to come off of it?! He obviously doesn't get that sure, there's the anxiety stuff but really, it's the physical withdrawl that is the hardest. I can't function if it takes 2 days to recover from every day I miss it. I can't do daycare or take care of our kids if I'm so dizzy I'm stuck to the couch! augh
 
Augh, sorry... I'm rambling on.
 
Yup, I talked to Gavin's mom and told him he totally didn't take it serious, just laughed about it when I told him how close he came to getting hit. I may just have him hold my hand. mowahaha
 
Ahh, i couldn't imagine going back to the baby years when having a 9 yr old!!! But, if you don't feel like your family is complete, definitely don't hold back cause you may regret it.
 
It's actually Andrew who is more in the middle. I'm ignoring my parents and Andrew is telling me to talk to them, to work things out. He doesn't really care about the outcome like if it means me and the kids going to things without him. He just doesn't think I should shut them out when they are a big part of my support system. (yeah, cause he sucks at that... ok, I'm feeling snarky.)
 
Ah, I totally know what you mean about warping things... I tend to do that A LOT and Andrew points out to me that he doesn't think it's that bad or meant that way. I think he doesn't read into things ENOUGh and I read into things TOO much! lol
 
Ok, I'm heading out to find me a popcorn popper since mine died. I'm buying a good one! Then I may try to hit the dollar store for crazy glue if I have time. Did I already say that in this post?! Man, I am totally losing it. Off I go, very little time left and nothing to show for the day I had at home with Timmy. augh augh augh

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From: MSN Nickname«jÓñi»Sent: 10/2/2008 6:45 PM
I'm having one of those days where nothing is pressing right now but when I think of things coming up I'm getting a little sick.  Mostly doctor's appointments.  It's not a lot of time in total but it's just keeping track of it all and dealing with the kids' (especially Chane's) bitching that we have to go here and there.
 
Coming up soon we have a fundraiser event at the Bon-Ton where the kids sell booklets, they have to sell popcorn, my regular cleaning job appointments, finishing up this car paperwork between the dealership and credit union, Braeden's filling fell out again so I'm taking him down to Columbia (1.5 hours each way) tomorrow morning to get a new filling meaning I have to miss my volunteer time in Chane's classroom, they both have dental cleaning appointment, Braeden has this eye appointment, I have my regularly yearly GYN apptmt, Chane and I both have separate psychiatric appointments in different places in addition to his weekly visit with Rocky, we're picking up the kitten on Oct 13 and taking it to the vet, they both need an appointment for flu shots, I have to have my nerve study on my legs, there's a den meeting for both Scott and me every Monday that takes us hours to get ready for instead of me just showing up with Chane now, and there's a Scouting event every single weekend.
 
I was very careful this year to try to make fall less stressful because October is always so manic.  How did this happen???  I didn't sign the kids up for sports, I talked Scott into changing packs and not being Cubmaster, there's no Halloween party for me to throw this year for the pack, and even though I'm making the kids' Halloween costumes, they'll be the easiest costumes so far that I've made (re-doing Brae's astronaut costume but the major pieces are still in the attic and Chane wants to be an alien to go with it so my choices are an pretty easy looking step-by-step costume I found online or buying him a premade costume).  I thought with all of that that fall would be easier this year - especially since last year we had Disneyworld to not only plan for but it took 10 days out of October that made everything else cram together to fit it all in.  How did my October and November get so crazy again?  I can't even blame the holidays since we don't really celebrate Thanksgiving and none of this has anything to do with Christmas!
 
AAACCCKKK!!!!  I'm done now!
 
 

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From: SaraSent: 10/2/2008 7:23 PM
Ack, that does sound crazy!!! The only really pressing thing for me right now is the house... making sure we have all the paperwork right, changing addresses and having all the daycare stuff ready to go (though would it be that bad if I couldn't do daycare cause my house wasn't safetied? lol) Oh yeah, and packing. lol
 
I'm feeling a tad better because I got out of the house. I bought my popcorn popper but it sucks and totally isn't what I was hoping for. I'm still going to use it for snack but may take it back once I have time to look in different stores. Wal-mart has something like what I want but it looks super cheap and is almost $50! No thanks.
 
Oh, forgot to say I finally called the lunch lady person but had to leave a message. So, now it's in her hands. mowahaha
 
I have less than 1/2 hr. Here's a quick list:
-pop popcorn, butter/salt
-cut up peaches
-clear off dining room table
-pick up choc. chips and mastermind game
-wipe T's hands
-set up stroller and throw some umbrellas and Vienna's coat in the bottom (it's calling for rain ALL this week and was gloomy this morning, rained overnight yet none of my kids came with umbrellas or raincoats... actually, Vienna's is a windbreaker and I guess Laura has one like that too but those things are so not waterproof if it rains for a while... I don't have enough umbrellas for everyone either...)
 
Ok, that's probably more than enough! Off I go.

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From: MSN Nickname«jÓñi»Sent: 10/2/2008 8:28 PM
We don't own any raincoats either .  I always use windbreakers with hoods on rainy days - probably because we don't walk anywhere!
 
Have you ever tried a microwave popcorn popper?  It's just a plastic bowl with a vented lid.  My dad gave me one he got at a yardsale but I bet it's super cheap to buy.  He has several.  You just throw in regular popcorn kernels with no fats and it pops it like microwave bag popcorn only a lot cheaper.  He loves his.  I've only used ours once because we are not big popcorn eaters and I buy the bags that are already flavored because I am lazy.  But I just decided the other day to start using the one he gave us so I finally bought regular popcorn.  When I used it for those Halloween "hands" where you fill the plastic gloves (I needed popcorn that had no greasy residue so that's why I got the popcorn popper thingie from my dad) it worked great.
 
Already got an email on the van and I didn't even think the ad would post until tomorrow!

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From: SaraSent: 10/2/2008 10:11 PM
Woohoo on the van!! Great you already have a bite!
 
I came across one on the net but I don't know, I'm not keen on plastics in the microwave. This one that I just got today absolutely sucks. For every popped kernal, and unpopped one came out. Usually I have to do 2-3 batches in my old, Value Village one but this one, I think I did 6?
 
This is the popcorn popper I want to get or something like it http://www.amazon.com/West-Bend-6-Quart-Popcorn-Popper/dp/B00004RC6R
 
ok, I gotta figure out supper. AHH

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From: MSN Nickname«jÓñi»Sent: 10/3/2008 10:31 PM
Sorry Sara - I didn't see post #5 in this string until I looked at the digest I got in my email (just started getting that) and realized I'd missed it.
 
Are you feeling better about money today?  That stinks about having so little time to pay the fees - can you do a payment plan for the lawyer?  Or I guess you just want to be done with it.  Smart on not doing any more loans before closing.  I hope all that goes well  - you must be so excited.  Are you taking time off to pack and move and unpack?  Do you have anyone to help you with your own kids, maybe another daycare mom or something?  I hope you're feeling better physically by then!
 
One thing about money, when it rains it pours.  Ahh cliches! :-)  When Scott and I were together it seemed like every time something happened it cost at least $100.   Which was bad enough.  But now it seems like everything costs $500.  How did that happen??  I am worried right now too but kind of blind at the same time.  In the back of my mind I know there are tons of things cropping up but I guess since Scott's been doing the checkbook I'm not facing reality. 
 
I thought Braeden's filling fell out because he had a toothache similar to the one he had a month ago where it fell out.  So I took most of today to go down to the dentist and it turns out the adjoining tooth has a bad cavity.  They didn't know in August because they didn't do x-rays.  It was really bad too - she said she could see the pulp of his tooth when she went in.  I have this feeling there's going to be a pediatric version of a root canal soon.  Today probably cost several hundred dollars.  I won't know 'til we get the bill.  God only knows what a root canal costs.  Man I remember my parents dealing with all this and never complaining even though I know they didn't have a lot of money and didn't use credit cards.  I feel whiny when I mention the cost to Braeden but I can't help it.  I'm like "you better start flossing better kiddo or you're gonna have to get a job."  I have 6 cavities at his age and a root canal in 7th grade plus braces which my parents only mentioned to me later when they said how much I complained and was ungrateful.  Well I'm grateful now - maybe I should tell them?
 
When is your ultrasound?  Can you take tylenol for the pain?  I never used to think much of tylenol but it really can help somewhat for things like that.  Just not something you'd normally think of.  If it's that uncomfortable I mean.
 
We picked up the car after I dropped Braeden off at school.  Basically I left here at 7:30 this morning and didn't get home 'til after 3 between the dentist and car thing because we didn't come home in between.  The car is not spectacular BUT it has some very cool technology features which make it more fun than I thought it would be.  Free satellite radio for 3 months, free Onstar for 12 months and a USB port for an MP3 player plus and MP3 CD player.  And lots of stuff on the screen that tell you things like whether you need an oil change based on how you're driving, not how many miles or months it's been.  And an mpg rating like my Caravan had that constantly tells you what mileage you're getting - I guess so you can figure out how to drive to get the best mpg.
 
On the way home we stopped at Ross (do you have those?  Ross Dress For Less is the real name?).  My MIL buys SO many of our Christmas gifts there.  Our running joke behind her back is that we keep a Ross tub for all the stuff to get rid of after Christmas.  It's a store with new things but surplus from other stores and there's a reason a lot of it is surplus.  Not damaged stuff or even factory seconds, usually, just crappy stuff nobody else could sell.  Like two years in a row I've asked for "cheap baking pans like Ekco or Bakeware - nothing special, I won't be using them for cookies, just fish sticks and stuff" and both years instead of paying $5 at Walmart for a cheap pan, she buys me these expensive but marked down baking pans at Ross for $5 that used to be $10 or something that SUCK.  I never knew a baking pan could suck at making fish sticks!  The ones from the Christmas before last burned every single thing I made on them - they were some high tech non-stick really heavy pans that somehow got moist in the bottom and everything had black on it on the bottom even when it looked okay on top.  Then last year she got me these Kitchen Aid ones from Ross that were $8.99 marked down from something like $14 at a regular store and they were big and bulky and wouldn't fit in the oven drawer.  And like I asked for over-the-door shoe organizers for all my doors - the ones I had gotten from Walmart were great and cheap - the ones she got from Ross were $1 less but hold nothing.  The over-the-door towel rack she got me from there falls apart because of the design, the one that cost about the same from Walmart is great - basically anything I get from there I end up buying a better version at Walmart.  Pretty much everything she's ever gotten me from there has gone in my freecycle bag or been returned (which also sucks because even if I manage to get the receipt you still only get a store credit if you don't have the original credit card).  It's not that the things from there break easily, they are just badly designed and I guess people don't recommend them to other people or return them to the real stores so surplus ones sit on the shelves and end up going to stores like Ross.
 
So I had this store credit and we stopped there for the first time (I used to shop for business clothes at a different location about 15 years ago but have never shopped there for anything else) and they had all this decorative stuff that's great for cheap!  Nice things that I didn't see anything bad about.  Things that I'm pretty sure are what they seem - not something I'd be unhappy with once I buy it.  So all this time I've been just getting rid of the stuff when I should have been turning it all in for decorative things.  Today I bought this really really nice-looking box - it's made to look like an old beatup suitcase with nice metal latches and I bought it to hopefully hide paperwork in.  I will take a picture - you'll like it Sara, I think.  I just think it's so cool - it made my whole day.  Small things get me down too much lately but it's nice that a small thing can make me smile sometimes too!  I'm way more excited about my box than the car LOL.
 
Need to help Scott get the kids ready to leave for camping.  I'm alone 'til Sunday - I'll be on here a lot I bet this weekend if anyone is around!
 
Hope your cat is doing better today.  Sorry for all my going on and on about the box!

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From: MSN Nickname«jÓñi»Sent: 10/4/2008 12:35 AM
Ahhhh
 
Well Scott and kiddos left at 6 in the malibu with it packed to the gills with camping stuff.
 
And called me at 6:10 - the malibu just totally stopped running.  Sputtered a little and stopped.
 
Thankfully we have AAA and also 3 cars now so I went and got him and ALL THE STUFF and he just dropped me off.  We had the malibu towed obviously.  It wasn't giving us any trouble.  It worked out well we didn't trade the van in!  We are so lucky it happened this way. 
I'm afraid what it might be.  Stopping like that is scary.  I'm going to try to not worry in advance.  It could be something small like the ignition (my old CRX did that and it was the ignition) or a blown engine (like when the station wagon did it). 
 
Anyway they're on their way.  Luckily he has the van to take camping so he doesn't have to take the new car down the most pot-holey dirt road I've ever seen and I have a car to drive this weekend.  Maybe I'll go joyriding in his brand new car he's barely driven!  NOT!  Can you imagine if I got the first scrape.
 
Trying to decide if I should shovel the house out first and THEN have pizza and relax or vice versa...

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