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Ms_BeautyExpert2 (Original Message)

Sent: 7/4/2007 6:09 AM

Hey out there this is the first vent post I have done in a while..

Anyhow so u read it right ... I was suposidly termed for "NOT CLOCKING OUT" Is that even legal or LEGIT!!! I did everything I was supose to.... ON TIME EVERYDAY 15-30 MIN EARLY... ALWAYS CAME WHEN I NEEDED TO... DID WHATEVER WAS ASKED OF ME.... All kinds of things... and what thanks did I get..

This is the part that got me though... weeks prior to ... HOW ABOUT THE MANAGER CONSTANTLY PRAISED ME ...

"Oh Leslie your a great stylist... great job...your excellent with people" and then say I have to let u go cause u did'nt clock out and to go as far to say "THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER ON-GOING ISSUES THAT HAVE LEAD UP TO THIS" WTH?

Well needless to say there was a good outcome my area supervisor *her boss* called me he heard my side of the situation and apparently she had been wrong about alot of things too... and so I am still THANK GOD AND BY GOD'S GRACE STILL EMPLOYED....

But...this was my thing... IF you have a problem with someone...WHY LIE TO THEM WOULD'NT U TELL THEM THE TRUTH TO HELP THEM EXCEL AND FIX WHATEVER ISSUE IT WOULD BE... Would'nt that what a great manager would do....

JUST I DON'T GET HOW PPL GET INTO POSITIONS LIKE THIS THAT CAN'T SEEM TO HANDLE IT PROFESSIONALLY!!!

Something wrong with that picture don't ya think?

Just my thoughts...

THANKS!!!

~Leslie~

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From:

Starliteny1

Sent: 7/4/2007 6:17 AM

I agree! I think that was a stupid reason to try to fire someone. Sometimes we just forget to clock out, and shouldn't that be our own decision to take brakes anyway? I sometimes have to clock out when I'm doing something that takes me more than 30 mins. Just because I could be terminated for not taking a break. If I need a break, I'll take one! I'm a big girl lol.

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Sent: 7/9/2007 5:15 AM

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> Hey out there this is the first vent post I have done in a
>while.. Anyhow so u read it right ... I was suposidly termed for "NOT
>CLOCKING OUT" Is that even legal or LEGIT!!! I did everything I was supose
>to.... ON TIME EVERYDAY 15-30 MIN EARLY... ALWAYS CAME WHEN I NEEDED TO...
>DID WHATEVER WAS ASKED OF ME.... All kinds of things... and what thanks did
>I get.. This is the part that got me though... weeks prior to ... HOW
>ABOUT THE MANAGER CONSTANTLY PRAISED ME ... "Oh Leslie your a great
>stylist... great job...your excellent with people" and then say I have to
>let u go cause u did'nt clock out and to go as far to say "THERE HAVE BEEN
>OTHER ON-GOING ISSUES THAT HAVE LEAD UP TO THIS" WTH? Well needless to
>say there was a good outcome my area supervisor *her boss* called me he
>heard my side of the situation and apparently she had been wrong about alot
>of things too... and so I am still THANK GOD AND BY GOD'S GRACE STILL
>EMPLOYED.... But...this was my thing... IF you have a problem with
>someone...WHY LIE TO THEM WOULD'NT U TELL THEM THE TRUTH TO HELP THEM EXCEL
>AND FIX WHATEVER ISSUE IT WOULD BE... Would'nt that what a great manager
>would do.... JUST I DON'T GET HOW PPL GET INTO POSITIONS LIKE THIS THAT
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Message 4 of 6 in Discussion

From:

mskb2002

Sent: 7/10/2007 12:45 AM

First your manager was wrong, obviously you know this cause you still have your job. We cannot terminate for one time offenses. It has to keep recurring over and over again and documented each time. Also as far as breaks are concerned my stylists have to make sure its ok with me to take one. I make sure each one gets their break. The reason is so that they're taken diplomatically. A girl that comes in two hours after another shouldnt take a break before the girl that came in earlier.Also they cannot do any salon duties whatsoever while clocked out. Glad you have a good area rep to talk to you and not push you off. Marla

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From:

Ms_BeautyExpert2

Sent: 8/2/2007 2:36 PM

THANKS GUYS FOR YOUR IMPUT... I LOVE THIS GROUP... LOL DID I EVER TELL U GUYS THAT!!! HEHEH

Well Good news is new location is great.. better buisness.. bizier... and It is also better tips!!!! GOTTA LOVE IT.. And even more imporatant the people I work with now seem to be very cool and laid back!!! YAY!!

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From:

StylistFind

Sent: 8/5/2007 2:41 PM

The best thing I ever did was to buy a copy of the Employers Handbook Guide...

Even as an employee (now an owner) this book has saved me from a managers stupid, wrong, or wierd emotionally driven desicions countless times.

I'm glad to hear it worked out in the end... but you should get to know your employee rights.

For example: in most states you can only be fired on the spot for; stealing or drug use.

(I'm on your side here ) She should have talked to you about not clocking out and told you it was a major issue for her. But, Not clocking out can be construded as stealing if you are trying to get more hours on your paycheck.

Still, your manager should have followed standard procedures to avoid potential legal action by giving you a verbal warning, a written, then a final terminal warning/firing.

Or in simpler terms she was wrong and that's why the regional manager overruled her.

I suggest you buy the book I mentioned or keep notes on your manager's weird decions with the time and date to establish her pattern ONLY TO BE USED if you get "fired" again...

most lawyers won't take a wrongful termination case unless it's clearly a bogus firing with notes, witnesses.

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