cath,

 

I'm kind of sure no one of our human spirits would Will havoc in Heaven after our personal tasting of havoc on Earth. The ones that could wish that would have shoot themselves in the foot anyway in this life by playing with the true forbiden sin against the spirit, thus waisting their chance at eternal Life. That's why I don't want to know about sin against the spirit.

 

So, like some have said, this earthly existence is a kind of cleansing process where God is kind of putting his/hers/its spiritual cells into some kind of sin cleanser that would either wash up the tainted ones and definitively get rid of the true cancerous ones.

geek, i find it sad that jerry has left, it isn't the same without him. It's a great pity. And it started off so promising.. What did go wrong ? Why did he throw in the towel so quickly ?

 

 

To return to the topic

 

Yes Geek, this was the issue i tried to raise.

The ones that could wish that would have shoot themselves in the foot anyway in this life by playing with the true forbiden sin against the spirit, thus waisting their chance at eternal Life. That's why I don't want to know about sin against the spirit.

I don’t know what you are trying to say, If seeking answers and questioning biblical issues is the object then i would disagree. God says that sin is the transgression of his laws and this makes sense to me, for the breaking of them has caused enough havoc already on this earth, when you "really" examine it. Look at all the problems and look behind  what really causes them ?

So, like some have said, this earthly existence is a kind of cleansing process where God is kind of putting his/hers/its spiritual cells into some kind of sin cleanser that would either wash up the tainted ones and definitively get rid of the true cancerous ones.

When the rich young nobleman came to Christ and asked Him,

"Good Master,what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?" Christ answered, "Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments".

Geek i think "if" the world is judged now, then the devil has won...

cath,

 

"Good Master,what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?" Christ answered, "Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments".

 

that one was telling to me. First there is no way to be really Good on Earth, the imperfection of the world will always lead us to erronous actions. But keep the commandments, that will help us not falling in true Error. Willing the world better than it is would be fruitless, we can only keep ourselves neat. Contrary to many, I don't believe that the Devil had won anything. Because of the "Star System" that filters news of events in the media, we are made to perceive the world as getting worst. Only a self-inflicted delusion, there is nothing new under the sun. It's the same crap going on in people's lives with the same frequency of good/bad events that was going on in the Roman Empire when Jesus came along.

 

We have just started to objectively learn about ourselves. There is a long road ahead of shattered "theories of everything". His words won't pass.

 

about jerry,

 

I'm sorry that he left. My guess is that he is kind of allergic to certain theories that are based on alleged historic cover-up activities of a well known ethnic group. I didn't read the deleted thread, but knowing him, only that kind of posting would have made him lose his temper with that baby of his (The Synod).

that one was telling to me. First there is no way to be really Good on Earth, the imperfection of the world will always lead us to erronous actions. But keep the commandments, that will help us not falling in true Error. Willing the world better than it is would be fruitless, we can only keep ourselves neat.

Wise words Geek.

Contrary to many, I don't believe that the Devil had won anything.

Neither do I, reason being .... i believe God to be in charge of all things and whatever is happining is within the purpose of his plan.

Because of the "Star System" that filters news of events in the media, we are made to perceive the world as getting worst. Only a self-inflicted delusion, there is nothing new under the sun. It's the same crap going on in people's lives with the same frequency of good/bad events that was going on in the Roman Empire when Jesus came along.

I take your point, but please read Mt. 24

We have just started to objectively learn about ourselves. There is a long road ahead of shattered "theories of everything".

His words won't pass.

I agree Geek.

about jerry,

I'm sorry that he left. My guess is that he is kind of allergic to certain theories that are based on alleged historic cover-up activities of a well known ethnic group. I didn't read the deleted thread, but knowing him, only that kind of posting would have made him lose his temper with that baby of his (The Synod).

I have not read it either, but i must admit, some of these conspiracy theories are well over the top.

 

Wise words Geek.

Ps. Having said this, good education would be a start of helping people to "avoid" problems rather than "solving" them.