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From: MSN NicknameHansSelyeWasCorrect  (Original Message)Sent: 6/16/2008 5:45 AM
I was watching an episode of "60 Minutes" (CBS television), and there was a segment on the science of sleep. The point was made that glucose metabolism is often disrupted if a person does not get enough sleep, which the "experts" thought could or would eventually lead to type 2 diabetes (if the person continued to get too little sleep, of course). My thought was that this is a great way to test the "essential fatty acid" notion, because it's highly unlikely that this glucose metabolism problem would occur in a person who is eating a diet like mine and has Mead acid in his or her cells (if the same kinds of experiments were done as those in the show).


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From: MSN Nicknametaka00381Sent: 6/16/2008 7:52 AM
Hans, how many hours of sleep are you getting daily in average now?

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From: MSN NicknameHansSelyeWasCorrectSent: 6/16/2008 5:33 PM
I would say usually around 9, but rarely less than about 8, and I do take naps when I feel especially fatigued.

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From: MSN NicknameGalkonisSent: 6/18/2008 6:03 PM
How often do you take those naps (how often do you feel fatigued?). I know people need different amounts of sleep, but if you are getting at least 8 hours of sleep each night, shouldn't you not need naps, or, at the very least, not get really fatigued unless youve done a lot of physical labor or something similar? I get usually about 5 hours of sleep (yes I do wish I got more. I can wake up at 6:30 every morning and have plenty of energy until 2 or 3am the next morning. Fortunatly I can usually get myself to sleep around 12:30-1) and almost never need naps, maybe one every couple weeks. After changing from a SAD diet to the primal rawdiet and then to a not so raw low PUFA diet, my food gives me plenty of energy all day compared to my SAD days of caffein.
 
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From: MSN NicknameHansSelyeWasCorrectSent: 6/18/2008 6:32 PM
The recent evidence I've seen suggests around 8 hours of sleep as an absolute minimum. Of course, there are so many factors that would need to be taken into account that this is just "suggestive." If for some reason I don't get enough sleep, I usually need to take a nap. I can feel a sensation that I know means that I either take a nap or get a nasty headache. How often I take a nap depends upon what I'm doing, which can disrupt sleep patterns.

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From: MSN Nicknametaka00381Sent: 6/19/2008 2:25 AM
I think you can go with less sleep for a period of up to half a year in a healthy way. But continuing this for long time like years will get you screwed. This is all nicely explained in the book "Lights Out". Removing AA from the body and blocking the blue light during the dark periods can potentially help but I would not see it as a life-long solution. High quality deep sleep is needed for proper body maintenance and hormonal balance and most people are still set for the 9 hours in average which corresponds to the natural day-night cycle. Of course the evolution goes on and there are individuals which can increase their reproductive power by sleeping less with the help of the artificial lights which appeared only about 100 years ago.

Unfortunately I am getting now only like 6-7 hours sleep a night and feel that this is not enough but I am no longer getting frequent colds/sorethroats and other inflammatory problems from it. However, to feel great and fix my hormones including high cholesterol I would need like doing the 9 hours a night (hope to get to this when the fall comes).

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