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From: MSN Nicknameforsammyray  (Original Message)Sent: 12/27/2007 5:56 PM
Hmmm ... a very interesting debate on here about the danger of flax oil.
 
Here's a question: Johanna Budwig created a diet whose foundation is flax oil combined with a largely vegetarian diet. It seems that many, many people have reversed their cancers while on this diet.
 
Additionally, flax lignans have recently been featured as a possible way to deal with cancers, as well as reversing many symptoms of "AIDS."
 
  

http://grouppekurosawa.com/blog/2007_10_29_

http://grouppekurosawa.com/blog/2007_11_28_

 

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From: MSN NicknameHansSelyeWasCorrectSent: 12/28/2007 4:01 AM
Chemotherapy can work as well, but if you don't have cancer, do you want to go on chemo to prevent it? My suggestions are designed to make your body very resistant to all "diseases," not just one. Ingesting more than tiny amounts of flax oil is potentially very dangerous in several ways, but if you already have cancer, it may be a good, natural kind of "chemotherapy," though of course there would need to be more evidence for me to argue that it's clearly an effective "anti-cancer" substance in this particular context.

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From: MSN NicknamerensielkSent: 12/28/2007 8:46 PM
Like most things, the dose is key. Flax oil will probably cause cancer at high levels, just like fish oil. In small doses, it might function as a safer alternative to chemotherapy. But nobody's ever worried about the fact that Americans eat way too much PUFA - getting 10% of calories from soybean oil alone.

If many studies have shown that 1-2% omega-6 is more than adequate, and in fact 0.5% or less might be "adequate", why aren't people warned about the risk of over-doing them?

http://www.fatsoflife.com/pufa/article.asp?nid=1&edition=arch&id=266

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From: MSN NicknameforsammyraySent: 12/28/2007 11:07 PM
I guess I should have mentioned this when I posted about flax oil in the Budwig diet.
 
Dr. Budwig's diet calls for large amounts of flax oil, but it is always mixed thoroughly with high-quality protien sources like cottage cheese. If taken alone, flax oil is not available to the body, and may be how it causes problems like the ones mentioned. However, when it binds with the protiens in cottage cheese, it becomes available to the body and allows greater oxygenation. This might explain why her diet has helped so many cancer victims.

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From: MSN NicknamerensielkSent: 3/3/2008 9:04 PM
I am skeptical of Dr. Budwig's claim that cancer is caused by lack of flaxseed oil and cottage cheese. There are many toxic additives in cottage cheese, like carrageenan, guar gum, etc. Why does she recommend high-PUFA oils like flax, soybean, sunflower, and walnut oil? Those are all very high in omega-6. Even flaxseed oil has like 13% omega-6 and 53% omega-3. People will get overloaded with omega-3 and omega-6. Why not eat a safer oil, like coconut, macadamia, or olive?

http://www.cancure.org/budwig_diet.htm
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-C00001-01c21xq.html

Budwig suggests 1.5 oz (3 tbsp) of flaxseed oil and 4 oz of cottage cheese. She says it's important for the fat to be raw, but I doubt that any soybean oil, sunflower oil, or walnut oil is truly raw. Stone-pressed olive oil (like Bariani) should be as good as flaxseed oil, if not better. And unlike flaxseed oil, it probably won't suppress Mead Acid.

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From: MSN Nicknametaka00381Sent: 3/4/2008 1:11 AM
Tell me about that ... I have been following that idiotic claim for nearly 4 years before switching to the cod liver oil that knocked me down completely. I was doing about 2 tbsp daily ... It all came after I was scared with the trans fats (I had been eating quite lot of margarine back then because it was easier to spread on the top of bread then buter). When I was searching the Internet how to remove the trans fats accumulated in the body and prevent cancer the high Omega-3 diet was coming out all the time ... I never reached Ray Peat's or this site because other sites like Mercola.com were outcrowding them. Thanks god that Monty once posted on the sci.life-extension group which I was reading occasionally ... But without being educated in biochemistry and open minded I wouldn't probably understand him well and think he was just a Kook as the other people on those groups say ...

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