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From: MSN Nicknamerensielk  (Original Message)Sent: 5/18/2008 5:37 AM
Brian Peskin - Optimal Ratios of PUFAs in the Diet
http://www.brianpeskin.com/efa-analysis.pdf

Lots of information about the toxicity of fish oil, but the author pushes unprocessed omega-6 supplements. Still, there is a wealth of information if you ignore the n-6 hype.

Chris Masterjohn - How Essential are the "EFAs"?
http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/PUFA-Special-Report.html

Chris thinks they are not very essential. Just 0.1% of calories from liver or 0.5% of calories from butter or other animal fats would supply the need. He also thinks that only AA and DHA are essential. Thus, the need for animal foods.


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From: MSN Nicknametaka00381Sent: 5/19/2008 4:41 PM
Also interesting articles on fats here:

http://mindandmuscle.net/taxonomy/term/109

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From: MSN NicknameHansSelyeWasCorrectSent: 5/19/2008 6:21 PM
I found that I was a bit "dry" (skin) when I tried to avoid as much UFAs as convenient for me. When I began to eat some "junk food," low in PUFAs but sometimes with more than a little trans fatty acids, and undeniably a reasonable amount of MUFAs, I was less dry. Then I noticed a bit of rashiness, so I cut back a bit on the "junk food," and I think I've got the right balance now, but I don't think dietary PUFAs have anything to do with it. Some dietary MUFAs or even TFAs might be okay, but the PUFAs don't seem useful on any level, even involving the most minor case of skin dryness conceivable.

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From: MSN NicknamerensielkSent: 5/21/2008 7:20 AM
I agree with you. I have found that good macadamia oil is very beneficial to skin. I use Mac Nut Oil from Australia, sometimes labeled as Dr. Pescatore's brand. It comes in a thin bottle with flat edges and a square shape. Some other companies have much cheaper, but this tastes the best IMO. I just eat a spoon full or so every day straight from the bottle. Macadamia is one of the best sources of palmitoleic acid, a MUFA in the skin. It has around 20% palmitoleic, 60% oleic, 18% SFAs, and 2% PUFAs (some have 3-4%).
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-C00001-01c20oN.html

Macadamia is probably the best food for building up Mead Acid and reducing Arachidonic Acid overload. Next best is fatty liver (foie gras), high-oleic sunflower oil, beef fat, cocoa butter, beef suet, dairy butter, and then olive oil.

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From: MSN NicknameHansSelyeWasCorrectSent: 5/21/2008 7:03 PM
Have you noticed any changes, as I've discussed in other posts, such as rubbery scabs instead of hard, plastic-like ones and short-lasting inflammation when you get a cut. Also, do you get colds as often as you used to?

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From: MSN NicknamerensielkSent: 5/22/2008 6:28 AM
I have noticed the soft rubbery scabs and less inflammation. I think I mentioned that when I get a paper cut now, I don't even feel it most of the time. Pain threshold is higher. I haven't had colds in years, but last month I was sick for a few days with a sore throat, fever, and cough. The symptoms were very mild, and quickly passed or mitigated.

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