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From: MSN NicknameneverCominHome  (Original Message)Sent: 3/13/2006 6:08 PM
Well...here's something I've been pondering for the last week+.  Most of you know that my father died December 10, 2005.  It's been very crazy for the last few months sorting out mom and dealing with Dad's belongings, his papers, etc. 
 
I'm the 3rd of 4 children, 2nd daughter, and have always been the 'different' one.  Through many occurrences throughout my life...even very recent...I've honestly had reason to doubt if my Dad was proud of me.  As I uncovered diaries of his, reading through only the occasional mention would make a stranger wonder who this other person is that crops up now and again...the vast majority of his musings, etc, are about my siblings.
 
I know that if you'd asked Dad who would step up to the plate and take care of Mom if things came to a head...without hesitation he would have answered my sister.  That hasn't been the case.  WELL...
 
I'm at a pub with a friend a little over a week ago.  She's a Dreamer.  Someone whose understanding I trust.  We had been having a very nice evening, and we were a few drinks in.  She got very serious and said "I've been wondering when I'm supposed to tell you this..."
 
 


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From: MSN NicknameStandardArtifact2Sent: 4/9/2006 7:57 AM
Ok i came to a place where it would be necessary to further difine this testing diety. 
 
Let me see. First I have to imagine a deity that does not know what It is doing. 
 
Ok I am sure I can find a pattern for that one.  This planet only has as many dieties as it has had human beings and other living creatures. 
Who knows what a holy cow thinks? Or Allah's camel. 
 
 
If he/she/it  did know it all, there would be no need for testing. It would know with out question who gets what talents.
 
This is a trick question.......that could get me in lots of trouble.
 
Why do you think a talent gifted person would need to be tested??
Tested for What?
 
 
Orange
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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From: MSN Nicknameswitchgears1_Sent: 4/10/2006 2:57 PM
If he/she/it  did know it all, there would be no need for testing. It would know with out question who gets what talents.
 
You have a preconcieved notion of a diety.  Take it out of terms such as religion. Put it on a basis of running a business or an inheritance.
 
My imagination...
 
Let me take the little seed that is creative Orange to make a point.. In this life, she has a certain set of parents. She has genetics from... let say 12 different places. When she leaves this plane those 12 genes will return to the original pools, taking with them the things she has learned.
 
In the future 2 children are born. They are cousins. Both have 10 points in common with Orange. The other 2 points(or genes) have gone in another direction. They are replaced with different genes and different directions in these cousins.
 
If you are the owner of a coorporation and looking to put someone in charge of something, or pass the inheritance of Orange... of course you will test them in various ways. Somethings may not appear to be a test, but will be a deciding factor, nonetheless.
 
Why do you think a talent gifted person would need to be tested??
Tested for What?
 
Of the two cousins, each has an ability equal to the other but in different directions. Temperament and dedication are key factors. Which cousin will you cultivate the Orange talent within?
 
If you don't use it, you lose it. Talent does not long remain with those, that don't use it. They may still have a bent in that direction, but the arts must be practiced to be improved.
 
Before I get on my bandbox, let me stop here to see if you can see the point as described. That is not to say ... do you agree. This is just a perception point and an exchange of ideas. None or all of it may or may not be correct. 

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From: MSN Nicknameswitchgears1_Sent: 4/10/2006 9:39 PM
Something to think about...
 
In which cousin will the little seed of creative talent, known as Orange, bloom?

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From: MSN NicknamephatkatsSent: 4/12/2006 6:17 AM
I think the images represent something else in dreams. And the image of your daughter, as i see it, represents your tiredness, that is what you put out.....the
stress, not your daughter.

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From: MSN NicknamephatkatsSent: 4/12/2006 6:20 AM
My previous message was an answer to #14....i got lost and thought it was the end
of this thread....

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From: MSN NicknamephatkatsSent: 4/13/2006 5:45 PM
About dreams, when my brother passed, years ago, for some reason, i did not attend the funeral. And my mother passed a few months later....
I would have dreams about then, later on, and i would always be at their apartment
(which they never had, they lived in a house), and in my dream, i would always knock
on their door, or would leave...and i was always asking myself or someone....if they were still living, as they appeared to be.
 
Years later, i learnt that my brother's ashes had been transported to my mother's
home town cemetary (which was not his will), so i went there, and the dreams stopped.
 

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From: MSN Nicknameswitchgears1_Sent: 4/14/2006 7:22 AM
phatkats
 
Maybe sub consciously you knew that something about him had been moved. At any rate, maybe your mind was put at ease by the visit. I like to dream about people I love, that are no longer here. It's as if we are still in touch.
 
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From: MSN NicknamephatkatsSent: 4/18/2006 4:35 AM
That would be nice to dream about people who are not here, but in that case, i was
always puzzled.....and questioning if they were dead, or not....it was the strangest thing.
 

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From: MSN NicknameStandardArtifact2Sent: 4/18/2006 6:58 AM
 I like to dream of lost loved ones too.  Unfortunately, I can't just do it anytime I want too.  It just happen in the dream and I try to remember to pay close attention and spend quality time with them.  Especially my husband and mother. 
They both died in 2001 so their memories are still fresh.  I tell myself to be sure to pay attention  to the people in the dream and make the very most of it.  I think I will focus and get as close as I can. But when I encounter them in the dream time it is so normal and real that I forget to make the most of it just like I so often did when they were alive.   I miss my husband and I would love to be able to talk to him again.  Some times when I look at my drawings I feel a warm affectionate feeling and think how much I would like to believe they were alive somewhere.   Oh, how beautiful the stories are. Stories.  It is hard to tell where imagination leaves off and another plane may exist.
 
I will say this, when I return from the  place of the dead in dreamtime, I always feel that it was a real spiritual journey and I don't forget it.  And it is extra hard knowing that I don't know anything.  I can't fake my own beliefs.  At least those who believe in something think they have some answers and that sounds pretty good to me.  Even if your wrong you still live happy.  So Long live the dream. 
 
Switch,
Ok I can do that one easier.
Basic formula the standard. Genetically deviated propensities.  Which one is best suited for a specific task.?
Yes they would need to disclose their weaknesses and strengths before I could make a good decision.
 
Even if both had trained skills and talents,  Testing would be required at several levels.  
IE. We both have a great brain and dexterity. We could be surgeons.  But I might not want to.
 
Do I have the idea?
 
Orange
 
posted yesterday but vanished.
Say Switch....we are jumpin on the beds and talking about you.  IN a Good way. 

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From: MSN NicknameStandardArtifact2Sent: 4/18/2006 7:53 AM
 
If you are the owner of a coorporation and looking to put someone in charge of something, or pass the inheritance of Orange... of course you will test them in various ways. Somethings may not appear to be a test, but will be a deciding factor, nonetheless.
 
I can't argue with that logic.  Happens all the time.
 
Orange

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From: MSN Nicknameswitchgears1_Sent: 4/19/2006 3:14 PM
 
Ok i came to a place where it would be necessary to further difine this testing diety. 
 
Let me see. First I have to imagine a deity that does not know what It is doing. 
 
My point... nobody really knows what a diety it. They have read various things and listened to tales passed down by their elders, but nobody really knows.

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From: MSN NicknamephatkatsSent: 4/19/2006 3:39 PM
Well....last night i was discussing with someone, and a big change is coming in our
music.
 
So, i had a dream....(my luck)...i was cleaning up the various rooms in the house,
and hubby was helping me (we had company coming over), and there was a lot to do. A couple of people showed up, then one of my sisters came over (in a red car)....
but i didn't enjoy her (she was not invited to the gathering and she showed up unexpectedly..as we are not in good terms)....and all i could think of was
getting the place cleaned up, before the guests arrived, and there was so much to do, and my husband was talking and not doing anything, leaving the cleaning to me.
 
And the change in our music, is a new  musican who will be taking charge and getting
things organised, so the rest of us, will have to be doing some work....so, i see my sister as representing something new (coming in....and new changes will be made)
 
I have read somewhere (they say that the person you see in a dream, might not be
then at all....could be yourself or someone else. Could be representing something
other than what we think.....that makes sense to me.

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