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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:31 am Post subject: Re: Video: "They've taken her!" RTP reenactment | | | sorry, I mixed up the cadaver dog segments; I'll put the correct one's link up shortly. | | Back to top | | | Lastminutepost
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:33 am Post subject: | | | The reconstruction that Clarence never wanted. _________________ "I think this is the first foreign national abduction of its kind since 1991 - it's extremely rare" - Gerry McCann | | Back to top | | | joaohonesto
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:31 am Post subject: | | | Hi I haven't watched any of them yet.
But if Clarence dosen't want us to watch, we should really make an effort.
Clarence Mitchell. he of the 3 yard step | | Back to top | | | lunatic1
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:45 am Post subject: | | | Thanks very much, it was so interested especially concentrating on the cadaver dogs which the British media don't seem to want to talk about. One thing I did find interesting was that in the reconstruction of Kate finding Madeleine missing Cuddlecat was on the bed and not on a high shelf and the shutters were definitely shut, strange that. Oh I wish I could speak Portuguese _________________ They're coming to take me away haha! | | Back to top | | |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:47 am Post subject: Re: Video: "They've taken her!" RTP reenactment | | | [quote="joaohonesto"]first of all, all praise to Karpathia that alerted us to the great news that RTP had made available online the great "Anatomia de um Mistério" Nov. 2 program on the 6 months of the McCann case!
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mms://195.245.168.21//rtpfiles/videos/auto/especiais/maddie_1_02112007.wmv
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mms://195.245.168.21//rtpfiles/videos/auto/especiais/maddie_2_02112007.wmv
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Now, just to whet the appetite of our English speaking friends, here's a first couple of selected clips with no need (or only minimal) need of translation:
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"They've taken her" - Intro to "Anatomia de um Mistério"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsuGxO7PB8w
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"No comment on Murat" - extended version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRpKThIO5HA
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXUW45Lm1EY
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consider this as a preview �?there's A LOT more worth sharing here in the forum�?one particular bit still has me going but I think I won't reveal it until tomorrow�?after my trip to the nearest Fnac to buy the Maddie 129 book of course…[/quote]
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joaohonesto thanks very much for that. I have just watched part one and it is the best video footage I have seen yet. I'll have to get to bed soon but will watch the others tomorrow. Too bad I can't understand Portuguese, but as you say it is easy to follow. The first part showing beds in the apartment really brought it home to me and I just sat and cried my heart out. God I wish they would find her alive and well soon. It would break your heart. | | Back to top | | | joaohonesto
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:57 am Post subject: | | | [quote="lunatic1"]Thanks very much, it was so interested especially concentrating on the cadaver dogs which the British media don't seem to want to talk about. One thing I did find interesting was that in the reconstruction of Kate finding Madeleine missing Cuddlecat was on the bed and not on a high shelf and the shutters were definitely shut, strange that. Oh I wish I could speak Portuguese [/quote]
é como eu! but frankly I hadn't noticed where Cuddly Cat was, I haven't watched the program properly yet, so I have been looking for interesting bits to share! But I'm going to force myself to go to bed now, so goodnight all�?
�?and watch this thread tomorrow for lots more "Anatomia de um Mistério" clips! | | Back to top | | | bobcat
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:05 am Post subject: | | | joaohonesto
thank you so much for this, despite not understanding Portuguese, I found this to be the most interesting ann well put together documentary on Madeleine yet. Lots of footage that I had never seen.
Can't wait to see what you have lined up for tomorrow! | | Back to top | | | therese
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:50 am Post subject: | | | joaohonesto, thank you | | Back to top | | | tuliptree
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:15 am Post subject: | | | Thanks you very much! I've watched both parts and will watch them again tomorrow. Excellent work! | | Back to top | | | jellyfish
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:22 am Post subject: | | | Thanks joaohonesto - this looks like it's going to be really good, unfortunately I could only watch the first couple of minutes before getting the creeps So I will watch it in the daytime _________________ What? The land of the free? Whoever told you that is your enemy! | | Back to top | | | roisin
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:30 am Post subject: | | | For all the frustration I've had with some of your posts, Nicholass, I must say that you appear to be an incredibly compassionate person and I've a lot of respect for that aspect of your contributions here. _________________ "Fragile as the wings of a life" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRTyBDdNmvk | | Back to top | | | | |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:04 am Post subject: | | | Great stuff | | Back to top | | | kitti
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:06 am Post subject: | | | [quote="jellyfish"]Thanks joaohonesto - this looks like it's going to be really good, unfortunately I could only watch the first couple of minutes before getting the creeps So I will watch it in the daytime [/quote]
The link wont work. | | Back to top | | | justthinking
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:25 am Post subject: | | | Thankyou for posting these clips. The first part was so sad, just the thought of the children left alone in that apartment in the dark of night, heartbreaking. There is no excuse. Second clip very interesting with the dogs. Hopefully it will be shown in the UK one day. | | Back to top | | | bb2002
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:39 am Post subject: | | | None of them are playing right for me they keep freezing or re-loading...Im watching it on Realplayer, is there anything better I can use? Thanks in advance _________________ """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" "you cant 'vote' her alive" """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" | | Back to top | | | waccy
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:39 am Post subject: | | | Crikey, I wouldn't want to be left alone in that place, never mind very young children. | | Back to top | | | karmakat
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:47 am Post subject: | | | Roisen, I'm a little surprised you fell for that. This is what was said by the poster below to a poor nurse who had the guts to come on here and tell the truth. Hardly compassionate.
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Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:00 am Post subject: Re: Our Feelings at Glenfield Hospital Re: Gerry McCann
[quote="RN__Sheila"]Been in the shadows here for a while but had a few glasses of cheap plonk and have finally plucked up the courage to post on here as me and a lot of my colleagues are fizzing.
Ever since Gerry McCann has come back to work it has been hellish here, 2 members of staff have had formal written warnings for absolutely nothing and I know of another 3 that have left to go to other hospitals. The reason is simple, we don't want him working here, full stop and will not be FORCED by management to eat in the same canteen as the man!!
My friend has finally cracked and phoned the News of the World and had a chat with one of the reporters there, she said he was very interested and was looking for corroboration, I expect it will be in this weeks paper.
Just thought you guys would like to know, my BF who is in Admin posts here and suggested I do the same. Not everyone at Glenfield thinks this man is a saint!!![/quote]
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And we are supposed to believe you!!! Pull the other one Rolling Eyes
If you are genuine are you not concerned that you are villifying an innocent man and if you are so annoyed maybe you should register your complaint, openly, with your employer and not come onto a forum hiding behind a mask of anonymity. A bit below the belt don't you think. Evil or Very Mad
I think I'll contact Glenfield Hospital tomorrow and make enquiries about your allegations. It works both ways. Shocked
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:19 am Post subject: | | | OMG KarmaKat. I don't know what I am more shocked by . The Nurse's post or Nicholass' reply. If the nurse's post is true (and I do believe it is, from the way it is written), then she may have lost her own job through this. Now I am all in favour of free speech, but there is no way in hell that I would jeapordise (sp) my own career and livelihood through this. Nicholass' reply is very nasty and to threaten to contact the hospital concerned to 'tittle tattle' well that says more about him than the orginal poster i.m.o. | | Back to top | | | Blunomore
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:37 am Post subject: | | | Interesting to see those dogs going crazy in the boot of the car.... is that the footage they showed to Kate, I wonder?
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:38 am Post subject: | | | [quote="Blunomore"]Interesting to see those dogs going crazy in the boot of the car.... is that the footage they showed to Kate, I wonder?
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:40 am Post subject: | | | [quote="waccy"]Crikey, I wouldn't want to be left alone in that place, never mind very young children.[/quote]
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Looks a scary place in the dark right enough.
Wouldn't leave my dog on his own . What on earth were they thinking?
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:49 am Post subject: | | | [quote="Maya"][quote="Blunomore"]Interesting to see those dogs going crazy in the boot of the car.... is that the footage they showed to Kate, I wonder?
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No, that is a reconstruction... Kate was shown the actual footage.[/quote]
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wonder if the dogs went as crazy in the actual footage. if you are a perpetrator and you see such a video, it MUST rattle you!!
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:06 pm Post subject: | | | [quote="Blunomore"]
wonder if the dogs went as crazy in the actual footage. if you are a perpetrator and you see such a video, it MUST rattle you!!
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Yes indeed, but not to answer any questions is not the answer to get to the bottom of it, if 'you' had nothing to do with it you would be wanting to know more than ever what on earth had happened... | | Back to top | | | marcol
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:20 pm Post subject: Easy... | | | Hi! I've lloking at this thread and it seems to me that the english posters haven't realised that the clips (I only saw the cadaver dogs) are "reconstitutions" made for the TV story. Check for the word "Reconstituição" at the top left corner at the beginning. Don't get carried away, alright? The reporter could have "reconstitued" anything she wanted to... | | Back to top | | | saturnus
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:59 pm Post subject: | | | [quote="karmakat"]Roisen, I'm a little surprised you fell for that. This is what was said by the poster below to a poor nurse who had the guts to come on here and tell the truth. Hardly compassionate.
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Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:00 am Post subject: Re: Our Feelings at Glenfield Hospital Re: Gerry McCann
[quote="RN__Sheila"]Been in the shadows here for a while but had a few glasses of cheap plonk and have finally plucked up the courage to post on here as me and a lot of my colleagues are fizzing.
Ever since Gerry McCann has come back to work it has been hellish here, 2 members of staff have had formal written warnings for absolutely nothing and I know of another 3 that have left to go to other hospitals. The reason is simple, we don't want him working here, full stop and will not be FORCED by management to eat in the same canteen as the man!!
My friend has finally cracked and phoned the News of the World and had a chat with one of the reporters there, she said he was very interested and was looking for corroboration, I expect it will be in this weeks paper.
Just thought you guys would like to know, my BF who is in Admin posts here and suggested I do the same. Not everyone at Glenfield thinks this man is a saint!!![/quote]
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And we are supposed to believe you!!! Pull the other one Rolling Eyes
If you are genuine are you not concerned that you are villifying an innocent man and if you are so annoyed maybe you should register your complaint, openly, with your employer and not come onto a forum hiding behind a mask of anonymity. A bit below the belt don't you think. Evil or Very Mad
I think I'll contact Glenfield Hospital tomorrow and make enquiries about your allegations. It works both ways. Shocked
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:36 pm Post subject: Some impressions | | | Good - if you can get past the 'just-got-out-of director-school' camerawork at the beginning.. worth perservering.
Interesting to see:
How dark it was, if the light of May 3 is replicated.
The stated fact that Kate McCann did not contact Sky News on the night- by Sky News.
How no 'white suits' were initially used in Murat's garden. Perhaps a 'preliminary' search?
The body language of de Sousa and Ribeiro, since we can't tell what they are saying. de Sousa - believable, because it looks like he has a conscience. Ribereiro - shifty 'corporate man', - intensely annoyed at being questioned. Presumably he's never had to answer questions from the the press before and doesn't like his authority to be challenged.
Murat's body language, when discussing his finances... for the first time, I'm leaning towards trusting Lori Campbell's instincts, especially since she said that what he was saying initally didn't check out. _________________ Transmitter and Receiver Of Laser Light
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:53 pm Post subject: | | | Fascinating stuff! Look forward to seeing more. Martin Blunt's last phrase spoke volumes - and wasn't a reconstruction. | | Back to top | | | ShuBob
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:14 pm Post subject: | | | I don't understand Portuguese but I'm really enjoying the programme
Thanks a lot joao for the links _________________ kali xxx | | Back to top | | | ShuBob
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:15 pm Post subject: | | | [quote="bonnybraes1"]....... Martin Blunt's last phrase spoke volumes ....[/quote]
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Indeed _________________ kali xxx | | Back to top | | | ShuBob
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:22 pm Post subject: | | | [quote="bb2002"]None of them are playing right for me they keep freezing or re-loading...Im watching it on Realplayer, is there anything better I can use? Thanks in advance [/quote]
======================================= I'm having the same programme and have now given up watching Part 2 after 10 minutes _________________ kali xxx | | Back to top | | | saturnus
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:14 pm Post subject: | | | [quote="ShuBob"][quote="bb2002"]None of them are playing right for me they keep freezing or re-loading...Im watching it on Realplayer, is there anything better I can use? Thanks in advance [/quote]
======================================= I'm having the same programme and have now given up watching Part 2 after 10 minutes [/quote]
Me too....any suggestions anyone? ........and I'm dying to know what was the last phrase? _________________ 'If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything' Mark Twain | | Back to top | | | SirPrize
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:20 pm Post subject: | | | Real Player seems to be having major problems these days and there are no 'updates' to fix it.
Try using windows media player {you may need to change your program preferences to do this}.
I think this is actually quite a balanced program, and whilst it didn't change my opinion on the course of events, it did make me realise a few things about what those with opposing views are seeing.
I won't bore you will the details of distraction techniques, but we have all seen and used them in our childhoods.
Remember when you did badly on a test in school --------- and it was because the teacher was ****, or didn't like you. {and not because you didn't revise, favoring a late night horror movie instead}. | | Back to top | | | joaohonesto
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:57 pm Post subject: | | | [quote="saturnus"][quote="ShuBob"][quote="bb2002"]None of them are playing right for me they keep freezing or re-loading...Im watching it on Realplayer, is there anything better I can use? Thanks in advance [/quote]
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Me too....any suggestions anyone? ........and I'm dying to know what was the last phrase?[/quote]
I've had the same problem, and concluded that it must lie on RTP's server, something to do with streaming perhaps. But it was only temporary and it's working perfectly at the moment.
as for the "last phrase", you can hear it at the Martin Brunt youtube clip above.
here's another clip, with more coming soon
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Apt 5A Crime Scene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW7F2oMsWgU
[edit: added: translation of the voiceover provided in the comments] | | Back to top | | | stumpy
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:21 pm Post subject: | | | [quote="Blunomore"][quote="Maya"][quote="Blunomore"]Interesting to see those dogs going crazy in the boot of the car.... is that the footage they showed to Kate, I wonder?
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No, that is a reconstruction... Kate was shown the actual footage.[/quote]
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wonder if the dogs went as crazy in the actual footage. if you are a perpetrator and you see such a video, it MUST rattle you!!
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Yeah, and the dogs names were changed to protect their identity... | | Back to top | | | lovemedo
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:49 pm Post subject: | | | took about two hours to download (in the background, while doing sth. else), but it's well worth your while.
good to see the area in which all this happened. we had no footage at all here in germany. even managed to understand a few words in portuguese.
good to see olegario again
sorry to say that the couple didn't convince me of their innocence...to say the least. I hope there will soon be a big step forward.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:00 pm Post subject: | | | I thought madeleine's bed was in between the 2 cots of the twins. Also those bedclothes don't look undisturbed to me. I am also haveing a lot of trouble with the WMV replays as I have a Mac Any suggestions as those look really good. I persisted with part 1 until Clarrie froze on my screen and I had to switch him off. _________________ How hard it is, sometimes, to trust the evidence of one's senses! How reluctantly the mind consents to reality. | | Back to top | | | stumpy
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:43 pm Post subject: | | | [quote="mickey1"]I thought madeleine's bed was in between the 2 cots of the twins. Also those bedclothes don't look undisturbed to me.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:47 pm Post subject: | | | http://tinyurl.com/yw2zbp
the Telegraph
Anatomy of a Mystery
“We are not going to comment on yet another speculative report in the Portuguese media about what happened that night,�?said Clarence Mitchell, the spokesman for the McCanns.
The documentary, which was screened on Portuguese national television last week, will be available to view in English tomorrow on the RTP website." | | Back to top | | | Maya
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 6:20 pm Post subject: | | | After all your good work joaohonesto it's going to be available as from tomorrow ...
still well done to you, and I am glad that they have done it... | | Back to top | | | McCanns_Guilty
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:00 pm Post subject: | | | Joahonesto, you have created a very interesting thread. Watching those cadaver dogs really brought a lump to my throat, though. | | Back to top | | | Carina
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:01 pm Post subject: | | | [quote="stumpy"][quote="mickey1"]I thought madeleine's bed was in between the 2 cots of the twins. Also those bedclothes don't look undisturbed to me.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:02 pm Post subject: | | | [quote="SallyGardens"]Joahonesto, you have created a very interesting thread. Watching those cadaver dogs really brought a lump to my throat, though.[/quote]
Reconstruction sally. | | Back to top | | | SallyGardens
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:03 pm Post subject: | | | [quote="Carina"][quote="SallyGardens"]Joahonesto, you have created a very interesting thread. Watching those cadaver dogs really brought a lump to my throat, though.[/quote]
Reconstruction sally.[/quote] ---------I was addressing Joahonesto. | | Back to top | | | urcrazy
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject: | | | For the benefit of Carina. "Reconstruct"; to build AGAIN; to go over an event or situation AGAIN. The innate inference one can draw from this word is that the said situation or event HAPPENED in the first place in order to build a RECONSTRUCTION. | | Back to top | | | urcrazy
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:27 pm Post subject: | | | [quote="Blunomore"]Interesting to see those dogs going crazy in the boot of the car.... is that the footage they showed to Kate, I wonder?
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:31 pm Post subject: | | | [quote="Maya"]After all your good work joaohonesto it's going to be available as from tomorrow ..
still well done to you, and I am glad that they have done it...[/quote]
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Hi Maya 'available as from tomorrow'. Could you say where and when, please. | | Back to top | | | Carina
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:31 pm Post subject: | | | [quote="SallyGardens"]For the benefit of Carina. "Reconstruct"; to build AGAIN; to go over an event or situation AGAIN. The innate inference one can draw from this word is that the said situation or event HAPPENED in the first place in order to build a RECONSTRUCTION.[/quote]
So the abductor brought his own scary music along also?
You have to take it for what it is a creative and imaginative film, did you notice the dog in the car scratched to indicate blood , he them sniffed excitedly all over the boot (where there was no blood) until the handler indicated him back to the place he scratched before.
The dog was able to smell blood 10 minutes after the handler put it there , he also indicated with his hand where the dog should search, I wasn't very impressed by that were you? | | |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:32 pm Post subject: | | | I know it was a reconstruction, but isn't the point of a reconstruction to make it as close as possible to whatever witness statements they have. Kate says Cuddlecat was on a shelf so why wasn't it on a shelf, why bother showing Cuddlecat at all if they did'nt believe her statement. Gerry says the shutters were open but they showed them closed and intact, again different to Gerry's statement. The bed wasn't between 2 cots, again, not what we have been told by the McCanns. It was if they were purposely discrediting Kate and Gerry's statements. _________________ They're coming to take me away haha!
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: | | | [quote="Nicholass"][quote="Maya"]After all your good work joaohonesto it's going to be available as from tomorrow ..
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Hi Maya 'available as from tomorrow'. Could you say where and when, please.[/quote]
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The Daily Mail says the English language version would be available on the RTP website as of tomorrow! _________________ kali xxx | | Back to top | | | SallyGardens
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: | | | [quote="Carina"][quote="SallyGardens"]For the benefit of Carina. "Reconstruct"; to build AGAIN; to go over an event or situation AGAIN. The innate inference one can draw from this word is that the said situation or event HAPPENED in the first place in order to build a RECONSTRUCTION.[/quote]
So the abductor brought his own scary music along also?
You have to take it for what it is a creative and imaginative film, did you notice the dog in the car scratched to indicate blood , he them sniffed excitedly all over the boot (where there was no blood) until the handler indicated him back to the place he scratched before.
The dog was able to smell blood 10 minutes after the handler put it there , he also indicated with his hand where the dog should search, I wasn't very impressed by that were you?[/quote] ---------I would imagine you were more impressed with "Glitterman", Carina; would I be correct in that assessment? | | Back to top | | | stumpy
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:34 pm Post subject: | | | [quote="Carina"][quote="stumpy"][quote="mickey1"]I thought madeleine's bed was in between the 2 cots of the twins. Also those bedclothes don't look undisturbed to me.
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really? It is a reconstruction stumpy..[/quote]
Carina, I think your last remark should have been addressed to mickey1... its actually me thats doing the eyerolling after mickey1`'s comment re the bed., | | Back to top | | | Carina
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:35 pm Post subject: | | | [quote="SallyGardens"][quote="Carina"][quote="SallyGardens"]For the benefit of Carina. "Reconstruct"; to build AGAIN; to go over an event or situation AGAIN. The innate inference one can draw from this word is that the said situation or event HAPPENED in the first place in order to build a RECONSTRUCTION.[/quote]
So the abductor brought his own scary music along also?
You have to take it for what it is a creative and imaginative film, did you notice the dog in the car scratched to indicate blood , he them sniffed excitedly all over the boot (where there was no blood) until the handler indicated him back to the place he scratched before.
The dog was able to smell blood 10 minutes after the handler put it there , he also indicated with his hand where the dog should search, I wasn't very impressed by that were you?[/quote] ---------I would imagine you were more impressed with "Glitterman", Carina; would I be correct in that assessment? [/quote]
No idea what you mean. | | Back to top | | | Carina
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:36 pm Post subject: | | | [quote="stumpy"][quote="Carina"][quote="stumpy"][quote="mickey1"]I thought madeleine's bed was in between the 2 cots of the twins. Also those bedclothes don't look undisturbed to me.
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really? It is a reconstruction stumpy..[/quote]
Carina, I think your last remark should have been addressed to mickey1... its actually me thats doing the eyerolling after mickey1`'s comment re the bed.,[/quote]
excuse me. Yes for whoever thought the bed should have still been exactly as it was when Madeleine first disappeared. | | Back to top | | | | |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:38 pm Post subject: | | | So the abductor brought his own scary music along also?
Just wanted to share this, has nothing to do with the content of the vids OP they are great, just thought this was somewhat apt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T5_0AGdFic | | Back to top | | | stumpy
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:40 pm Post subject: | | | [quote="SallyGardens"][quote="Carina"][quote="SallyGardens"]For the benefit of Carina. "Reconstruct"; to build AGAIN; to go over an event or situation AGAIN. The innate inference one can draw from this word is that the said situation or event HAPPENED in the first place in order to build a RECONSTRUCTION.[/quote]
So the abductor brought his own scary music along also?
hahahah was half expecting Boris Karlof to jump out in front of the camera myself... very dramatic stuff indeed for a reconstruction..... | | Back to top | | | Payge
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:55 pm Post subject: | | | Hey guys, referring to the first page and Riosin's comments -- I think you'll find that "Nicholass" is a female. The clue lies in thelast four letters of her name. | | Back to top | | | joaohonesto
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:10 pm Post subject: | | | [quote="marcol"]Check for the word "Reconstituição" at the top left corner at the beginning. Don't get carried away, alright? The reporter could have "reconstitued" anything she wanted to...[/quote]
marcol, you may be right of course about "The reporter could have "reconstitued" anything she wanted to", but IMO it's precisely the opposite: I'd say these reenactments are strictly based on the PJ's evidence, so much so that we can take them for official FACTS of the case. For instance, if the reencactment says blood was indeed found under a parquet tile in the apt., I'd be willing to bet it was EXACTLY where it was found.
In fact, I think the only thing missing in the program is "Made with the assistance of the PJ" in the final credits.
And, assuming it's so, did anyone notice the bit about Kate having said that she felt a very strong air draught when she opened the room's door? proof, according to her, that the window was opened? Well, I hadn't heard about that one before, and supposing no one else did either (it's impossible to be up to date with everything), isn't this part of Kate's staments to the PJ being released into the public domain? PJ playing their little media game too, perhaps? | | Back to top | | | tuliptree
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:27 pm Post subject: Re: Some impressions | | | [quote="amplyjustified"] Murat's body language, when discussing his finances... for the first time, I'm leaning towards trusting Lori Campbell's instincts, especially since she said that what he was saying initally didn't check out.[/quote]
I don't trust Lori Campbell's instincts at all, not one jot, zero and minus zero.
Especially not after seeing her video giving her side of it Youtube and her segment on the Portuguese TV last night. LC is a nasty attention-seeker. Take a look at the heavily supressed smile on her mug. Her moment of fame.
LC said Murat's claim to be a police translator didn't check out and not only that she said she doubted"that they would take on board just a local guy." So, did she ask the police? No. So she never found out RM had worked as paid PJ translator and was paid also by UK police to do Port-Eng translation there.
So Lori was flat wrong and failed to do her job as a REPORTER, just acted as a snitch. Plus she was p*ssed because he refused to answer to her questions when SHE treated HIM as if she was police with authority above that of a regular journalist. She wanted to know his name and he said (if I recall) Rob. "He was very vague wouldn't give me his surname" As for his job "he was very vague he said he worked for real estate." Well, Lori, guess what, he does work IN real estate. She could have asked anyone for confirmation of that. She could have looked on the internet and found out that Murat's late father late had a real estate business in Lagos (which since his death still bears his name). But no, she was looking for a nice big exclusive, LC Alerts British Police to Maddy Killer. | | |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:35 pm Post subject: | | | [quote="stumpy"][quote="SallyGardens"][quote="Carina"][quote="SallyGardens"]For the benefit of Carina. "Reconstruct"; to build AGAIN; to go over an event or situation AGAIN. The innate inference one can draw from this word is that the said situation or event HAPPENED in the first place in order to build a RECONSTRUCTION.[/quote]
So the abductor brought his own scary music along also?
hahahah was half expecting Boris Karlof to jump out in front of the camera myself... very dramatic stuff indeed for a reconstruction.....[/quote] ---------Very "Crimewatch UK".....'don't have nightmares'.... | | Back to top | | | roni1
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject: | | | bump | | Back to top | | | roni1
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:16 pm Post subject: | | | very good | | Back to top | | | thentherewere4
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| Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:32 am Post subject: | | | Thanks for that Payge I read "his" post and something gave that away. _________________ Nora Paul said,"They were six medical professionals..if there'd been an accidental..I mean a. If it were accidental and they were doing something bad they'd covered it ..they could of covered it up,if it was accidental they'd of taken care of it" | | Back to top | | | thentherewere4
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| Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:42 am Post subject: | | | tuliptree
LC is a woman of little consequence I think. | | Back to top | | | Limetea
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| Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:50 am Post subject: | | | No, I remember hearing about the 'draught that couldn't have been' a couple of weeks ago, at least. It was considered quite significant at the time. _________________ Every Child Matters... | | Back to top | | | TheAcademic
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| Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 12:09 pm Post subject: | | | When Lori Campbell is saying why she found murat suspicious (at approximately 16'20")
Did anyone one else notice that the girl over her right shoulder looks like Amanda Knox? | | Back to top | | | meadow
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| Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 12:19 pm Post subject: | | | There is promised an English language version to be posted on their site - any kindly Portuguese person can point us in the right direction??
Many thanks | | Back to top | | | | |
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