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General : How do you know your submissive?
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From: MSN Nicknameֻblõşşõmֻ  (Original Message)Sent: 7/26/2007 12:12 PM
How do you know your submissive?
 
In my heart i desire to be a slave, it's there, i feel it.  i want it but i don't know how to get there or even if i should.
 
The more i've been in chat the more i doubt i am or can be a submissive or a slave, not like i see others online.  i've gotten so turned off by the antics online.
 
i have trust issues and as much as i desire and crave being a slave, i'm not sure i can get my trust level there.  Does it get easier?  How do i get it there?
 
Am i lazy if i don't work for it (the desire to totally submit)? Is it okay to just like the sexual side?
 
i am so confused?
 
 
 
 
 
 


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From: MSN NicknamesiouxmoonwalkerSent: 7/27/2007 3:18 PM

Hi blossom

i am not surprised you are confused after the alpha crap and seeing other o/l idiocy... BUT..... not A/all online, or in real life to that matter, are like that.... in all walks of life there are people who will be detrimental to your welbeing - the trick is learning to find a way to cope with the knockbacks and idiots so that you can heal, stand tall and be proud of who and what you are. you do not have to be like others - you have to be true to yourself, your true nature

One of her questions was: How do you know your submissive?

i feel it deep within me..... it satisfies my soul, calms my inner child, brings fulfilment and unites my mind, body and soul.

start your journey as a submissive so that you can learn and build trust - trust isnt something that happens overnight - there isnt a race to be a slave. it is your journey, you take it at your pace, no O/one elses.... you can be guided and given information by O/others but ultimately it is your choice how you proceed and where you end up. It is ok to like any part of teh lifestyle that you desire, need and wish to experience.

i too have slave within me and i have trust issues because of my past - the slave part of me surfaced and almost became who i was, however, it wasnt the right time, He wasnt the right One. i believe when the time is right and i am with who i am meant to be with the slave in me will surface and be the one that i am.

i can't say in all honesty it gets easier but it doesn't get worse either... no one said it would be easy - if you were nilla it wouldn't be any different.

What i do know for sure is that you cannot force the pace, the journey... if the need is there and you communicate with the P/people around you, as well as yourself, honestly and openly then you will be open to finding what you need.

i was given some good advice by a Dominant that i trust whole heartedly.... "Journeys should not be made alone, they should be shared and enjoyed. It does not mean that you can only make them with the "ONE". For there may not be the "ONE" but many who connect and share something special with you. Those special things, experiences, journeys do not become invalid just because there is another. I have known those who have looked all their life for the "ONE" with out realising around them they have known many.

In the old days the term was the "one for now" which often meant that things lasted a lot longer. Keeping the close relationship more special, more open and honest, more depth to it. Yes that extra special innersoul mate may very well exist, but it is with the help of the others that you will find them not your own. "

Enjoy your journey's, remain open and communicate.

best wishes,

moonie


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From: MSN Nickname¤Ź¤Sent: 7/27/2007 7:27 PM
Beautifully written moonie,
 
blossom, moonie has hit the nail on the head here. There are people in this world who look for your Achilles' heal, the soft spot in the dam, so they can eat away at it and erode your self confidence, self esteem. They thrive on victimizing others, filling them with self doubt and fear. As moonie said, you are feeling weakened by and I quote, "all this alpha crap." And that is all that is is, crap.
 
I have known these people long enough to have seen them morph from one school of thought to another, from craft to alphas, always having some catch phrase to describe themselves. They destroy all that they touch and trust me on this, these people are insane, they have no clue what this lifestyle is, they do not live it, every word from their mouth, finger tips is a flat out lie.
 
I know my words are harsh here, but I have seen the trail of destruction they have left in their wake. They have hurt countless people with all their bullshit analysis. They talk of writing a book, LOL, trust me it aint' gonna' happen. 
 
They .......have .....no.... writing....skills.
 
In the future if someone, anyone, fills you with self doubt, dismiss them and push them to the curb. Surround yourself with only people who fill you with joy,self awareness and excitement for your self and your journey through life. Only people who are hurting will attempt to hurt another. If it feels in any way wrong, politely excuse yourself and go on.
 
Try and put all of this in the past and understand, you are not what any one ever tells you that you are, you are what you tell yourself you are. As the old saying from the 60's states, today is the first day in the rest of my life. Let the past go, and begin a new journey today. Take your next step in your submisison with a open heart. Do not allow self doubt instilled within you by others dictate the next step you take with in your submission. Z

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From: MSN Nicknameteaz2plzzzSent: 8/1/2007 11:23 PM
I felt compelled to respond to this query and I rarely reply to posts. This is such  an honest question that all submissives face and often face time and again throughout their journey. In the post blossom answered her own question, she feels it in her heart.
 
Life and experience often casts doubts and shadows on what you feel deep inside and it can become muddled and confused until you can't remember up from down. This is all very normal of course and a part of the journey but it takes a long time to get from the "feeling" to the "knowing". For myself I was so set on finding my One that I oftentimes did not fully revel in the experiences I had. Now I have learned to appreciate fully "the one for now" and it has been a blessing in ways I could never have imagined. I can look back at every experience, both good and bad, vanilla and D/s and see how they have helped shape me into who I am today and be thankful for that.
 
What each person needs in life is different and while for some the sexual is up front, for others it takes a backseat. There is nothing wrong with anyones needs, they are just that, their needs. I do believe that many times we supress some of our needs or compromise in order to maintain a relationship. For myself that does not work for long and I have worked hard to learn to communicate my needs and be responsible for getting those needs met. The relationship I have now is healthier and happier because I don't deny those needs any longer or expect just one person to meet everything I need. It helped that I chose to be with someone that is comfortable enough in His own skin that he doesn't feel threatened by my needs being met in many different ways.
 
Many blessings to you blossom and may your journey be as enlightening and fulfilling as mine has been to this point and I look forward to the future.
 
teaz

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From: MSN NicknameֻblõşşõmֻSent: 8/5/2007 1:16 AM
 

 
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