Louellen,

I pray we are all wrong. There is enough hate in the world. My husband & myself have had a bad feeling for about a month. Last week he woke me up and said he had a very evil dream( he couldn't get back to sleep) Sometimes we actually have the exact same dream at he same time. I feel there will be a retaliation.When those pictures of Saddams sons were plastered on the front page or on the news, how would any of us feel if those were our children? Although he is a cruel, heartless man, I pray for him. It is so sad that people hate as much as they do. I fear the end is near, I am ready. I am a spiritual warrior of love.

I enjoy your group.

Blessings of love & light,

Kate

Bush opened the door of possiblities himself.  He is the one who broke International law by deciding it was ok to gun down or try to assassinate a president.  He also started the war, and it's pretty obvious that the "facts" he based his decision on, weren't so solid.  How many American casualties have we had so far from this effort?  If my son or daughter had been killed in this war against Iraq, I would find that hard to accept.  If Bush is going to put our children and young people at risk, and lose hundreds of American (and foreigna) lives... to kill a family enemy ... he needs to understand that the ball bounces both ways.  I for one find this war completely disgusting and totally un-neccesary.  Perhaps we need to open our eyes to who might be the evil one.

Bravo!! Bravissimo!! Here here     ::::::whistles:::::: :::;;chears;;:::

 

I am SOOOOO Glad someone else FINALLY!!!! had the balls to have Said the same thing I have been saying for 3 yrs!

 

 

Salute!

 

Blessings

RA

We used to have leaders who led their troops into battle.  Now, they just sit in their secret offices and send kids out to die.  I truly believe that you should not kill anyone, unless your life is in immediate danger, and its self defense.  I never felt that Americans had the right to go after Hussein to kill him.  After all, what had he done to US?   Besides allowing us to supply him with weapons when he was in the war against Iran.... and refusing to cowtow to the big guys and let our administration tell us how to run his country?  What about when Bush gave Hussein a 48 hour ultimatum to leave Iraq ... and no war would start?  Of course, Hussein refused to go,.saying that the US didn't tell Iraq what to do with their administration.  So, Hussein doesn' t go.... and so, he is an open target to be assassinated?  Does that make any sense?  And, now, he isn't in power anymore... but killing him is still a top priority? What ever happened to trials?  I am not defending Hussein for the attrocities he has most assuredly commited on his own people (because he was doing it way before we supplied him with weapons)... but is he largest criminal out there?  Is he the biggest threat?  No, he was not a threat to us.  Hitler wasn't a threat to us either, but he had proved his abilities to wipe out masses he didn't care for, and he had stormed several other countries, taking over.  There was plenty of reasons to go into that war, and still, America was slow at doing it.  It was the Russians who were impressive in WW2 - more so than the Americans.  Getting back to Bush... I just believe he has no regard for human life (except his own).  It is not his family or friends who lose their children for this personal vendetta against Saddam Hussein.  The military still employs the lowest income people, the ones who want college money and to learn skills.  Everyone Bush knows goes straight to college ... with their money.  I wonder if he feels his own life would be worth putting on the line for this effort?  Or, his daugher's lives?

And, we awarded $30 million to the tipster who told officials where to bomb two of Husseins sons.  Couldnt that money be better spent elsewhere? 

Well, America put him in office for more than one reason. People are foolish, they do not think of the consequences of their decisions. People are upset with Bush now, why did they put him in office? A man who makes his state minimum wage 3.50 an hour? He makes the rich richer and the poor, poorer. If American's had the will to step up as one, instead of rant and rave to all their friends then these stupid decisions wouldn't be allowed to be made. The people are more powerful than the government. When will they realize that? This will have been a good lesson for America, sadly. Next time we won't be putting any republicans in office. This planet needs a leader.

 

Anyway, it has come to my attention that there are 5 suitcase nukes on US soil. They are intended to be discharged in various areas. A couple of which are Dallas and New york.

 

Talon

>>>Well, America put him in office for more than one reason. People are foolish, they do not think of the consequences of their decisions. People are upset with Bush now, why did they put him in office?<<<

 

 

 

Being Canadian, with our own headaches in our leaders LOL...I don't want to put too much down in American politics, but Strega and I have talked about different things and I know that I'm not alone in feeling very skittish on what Bush is doing and where he's leading the world and his own country. 

 

I keep feeling that there's this "stirring" of latent forces that are just simmering quietly under the surface and preparing to erupt if Bush doesn't back off.  It's like a preparation time for what's coming ahead.  There's still "retribution" coming in some form for Saddam's son's death.  And, Bin Laden is just rounding up his forces once again.  He may have laid low for now, but he's not by far, finished.  It's all "preparation time" right now....slowly, smoothly, underground movements that we're not aware of at the moment.  Saddam is the least of his worries right now.  And, I feel that Bush is going to try to draw the attention away from his missteps by starting up something new very shortly.  By Fall, there will be rumblings about not only further attacks from Bin Laden, but also a new plan of Bush's elsewhere in the world. 

 

Bush is making a huge mistake and possibly digging his own and other's graves in the process!  I do so hope that I'm horribly wrong on all of this!

 

Love and Light,

Louellen

Louellen, I am just getting acquainted with some of the message boards and I found your post, re: premonition of attempted assassination on President GW Bush.  In the astrological community there has been an underlying fear this may happen, as the inauguration took place during a Jupiter/Saturn conjunction in an earth sign .... sort of a "president's curse", I believe all former presidents that took office under this celestial influence have been killed or died in office.  The one exception was Reagan, he did take office during this conjunction, but it was in an air sign (Libra).  He survived the attempted assassination on his life.  Anyway I share your nervousness about his security, he is definitely in a high risk situation.  I hope no harm comes to him.

 

Star beams, Karin

I have to tell you that I had a dream the other night about a helicopter, a big one being shot down.  Thought of the Prez when I woke up.  Hope I am wrong

 

E

You know, I'm still feeling that this is a very real possibility!  I don't know when but, there's just this feeling that there's something dark over Bush's head and it's not a very nice feeling.  I feel that there's still this possibility that his life may still be in danger.  It may even happen out on the campaign trail.  I hope with all of my might that I'm wrong and that his security is heavy enough that no one can get through to him....but, there's still this very dark feeling about this. 

 

Louellen

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello Doc, anyway, I pretty much agree that nothing happens by coincidence ever since I was a kid. In fact, I hated adults who reasoned "it was an accident" whenever a girl got pregnant out of wedlock. Duh... it doesn't take a teacher to let you know one plus one equals two...

 

Anyway, as much as I agree with the coincidence thing, I can't really comment on the purpose thing. I somehow agree that everything has a purpose however I think that our perceptions, beliefs, views on things could cloud or create biases on what we think the purpose of things could be.

 

Ocean

 

 

Behind The Veil <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello everyone, anyway, I just felt like making a short introduction coz I've pretty much read a lot of introduction from all new members and I actually never made one when I joined the group about a month ago. So "HI"  I'm OceanEyesWatching.

 

Second, I was just wondering if someone could help me out with something... well, I've been told twice that there's this "little girl" following me around. Well, she hasn't really done anything to disturb my peace of mind but I don't know what to do about her. I try to talk to her and give her a name but whenever I try to ask her name... well, I don't feel like any name actually suits her. I tried leaving a pen and paper for her but she never wrote anything. I've seen her only once, the day after my birthday. And my room mates once heard a little girl singing in our washroom one time. Some other boarders said they've seen a kid at our dorm so I'm not really sure if we're all talking about my little girl although I think it is her.

 

Like I said, she hasn't really done anything bad and I hope she doesn't coz I really don't know what to do with her. All I know is that she is making her presence known. Like the most recent I guess is that I supposedly lost my atm card. When I was about to get my card from the machine, it went back in and from what I remember, it never got out again. I even remember one time when I was looking through my wallet and saying to myself that I lost one card collection... Then, just this morning, I was looking through my wallet when I unconsciously pulled out each card and I was taken aback coz one of the cards was my supposedly missing atm card. I don't find it freaky although I don't know what to think, if I just forgot that I did get my card or it was little girl's works... if not someone else.

 

I'm just saying all this coz I've been told twice that I don't have to worry about this little girl but my senses are getting clearer now and sometimes I feel this heaviness, sudden "bangs" and "flushes" and sometimes like things around me are going off course or something like that. I'm not really complaining about it... it actually makes me feel more normal. I just want to understand and... from what I'm told and what I think, we can't really help these souls... and I don't know how I could even help her or what I should even help her with.

 

Sometimes, I think she simply wants to be known... recognized... not quiet sure but it's a guess.

 

Thanks for any insights.

Hi Doc:

 

Yes, it seems to be the consensus that nothing happens by "coincidence" and that there are reasons behind a lot of things that do happen in life.  However, I don't think that we can place that value on everything that happens in life.  It is sometimes circumstances, sometimes our own free wills and sometimes, it truly is, sheer accident/luck/bad luck/being in the wrong place at the wrong time.  I simply cannot put EVERYTHING down to having been preplanned, predestined or with purpose.  We can spin our own purposes into these happenings, or learn great lessons from them, but to say that they all had a specific reason......I can't say that I, personally agree with that line of thought totally. 

 

I think that what I personally, have trouble with in applying it to Bush and the Iraq situation is the fact that Bush didn't go into Iraq specifically to liberate the Iraqi people from their plight of horror under Saddam's regime.  Bush went into Iraq under the guise that he was ridding the threat of attacks by Saddam with his weapons of mass destruction which we all know did not and do not exist.  As, I personally, see it, Bush had the bonus side effect of freeing the people of Saddam's rule of terror and attrocities.  However, I also personally, feel that part of Bush's plan indeed was to rid Iraq of Saddam's rule, but for a different reason.  I feel that Bush ousted Saddam so that a government could be put in place over which Bush and Blair (Tony Blair) have some control which means some control over the precious oil in Iraq.  The outcome of freeing the Iraqi people appears to simply be a cover-up/sugar coated attempt at convincing the American people and the world that something good did come out of this invasion since no WMD's were found and no real capability to produce or procure them! 

 

I wish that I COULD feel that this was all some Higher Powered plan, but in reality, I think this was the Bush administration's plan and the one good thing that happened because of it was that Saddam is now behind bars.  However, it still won't stop the insurgents that are still killing innocent Iraqi people and U.S. troops.  There's still a HUGE mess in there that has yet to prove that the Iraqi's are any better off right now.  Odd situation and certainly a double edged sword, isn't it?

 

There is also one other thing to consider here.  If we can attribute "purpose" to Bush having been elected to do something as noble as going into Iraq to free the Iraqi people, then we almost use that very same spiritual "law"/theory in Saddam, mustn't we?  What was Saddam's purpose then....for under this thinking....he must also have played a role and had a purpose in the grander scheme of things as well, mustn't he????????  

 

Tricky "devil" isn't it? LOL

 

Love and Light,

Louellen