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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 6/25/2008 11:47 PM
From: joie  (Original Message) Sent: 4/17/2002 10:23 PM
 

 
 

Who was persecuting the Christians? The law keeping Jews. Proof? Yes!!!!!

11Cor. 11:24--[Paul speaking]~~Of the JEWS five times received I forty stripes save one.

Yes, five different times the law keeping Jews beat the great Apostle with 39 stripes. They tore his back to shreds each time. Think how he suffered; how long it took to get over each of these cruel beatings.

Now, I ask you, IF keeping the law of Moses [and they were]-- made them Holy? Where did it give them any love? I see none in them. They merciless, cruel, and evil. Yet they were the ones ‘keeping the law of Moses�?

v26--.......in perils by mine own country men----now this means those law keeping Jews.

Acts 26:4-- [Paul speaking]--My manner of life from my youth, which was at the first among mine own nation at Jerusalem, know all the Jews;

v5--which knew me from the beginning, if they would testify, that after the most straitest sect of our religion I lived a Pharisee.

v9--I verily thought with myself, that I ought to do many things contrary to the name of Jesus of Nazareth. [this was while he was a strict, law keeping Jew].

v10--Which thing I also did in Jerusalem: and many of the saints did I SHUT up in prison, having received authority from the CHIEF PRIESTS; [the laws main rulers]--and when they were put to DEATH, I gave my voice against them.

v11--And I punished them OFT in EVERY SYNAGOGUE, and compelled them to BLASPHEME; and being exceedingly MAD AGAINST them, I PERSECUTED THEM even unto strange cities.

Now, just look at this. This is a man who is living the strictest law keeping Jew of all; yet where did this give him love? or holiness? or compassion? or mercy? or any good nature? Where? He was filled with HATE, MURDER, AND EVIL.

The next few verses tell of Paul’s great conversion to Jesus. Now, I ask you, if law keeping is our holiness and sanctification ~~~~~ WHY did this man living the strictest way of law keeping, have to go and receive the Baptism of the Holy Ghost and be Baptized in water in the name of Jesus Christ to wash away his sins?

Now, watch what happened to him AFTER his conversion to Jesus.

v21--For these causes the JEWS caught me in the temple, and WENT ABOUT TO KILL ME.

See, here it is again!!!!! These ‘religious�?law keeping Jews show this murderous nature again. Now, they want to kill Paul. They are the ones who had Jesus killed. Remember, that Jesus himself testified against them and said they killed ALL the righteous who have ever been slain. WHO DID THIS? Roman Catholic? No!!! Law keeping Jews. So said Jesus. [they are the Catholics].

Paul said they were contrary to all men and to the Lord himself.

Peter showed when the Lord gave him the vision of the animals in that sheet and told him to kill them and eat; Peter said, Not so Lord [see still rebuking the Lord]-- for I have NEVER eaten anything unclean. See? Proving that Peter had been a keeper of Moses law all his life.

Watch him deny the Lord in that state. So, I ask you, if keeping that law is what makes one holy and sanctified, WHY did Peter have to go to Pentecost, receive the Holy Ghost with evidence of speaking in tongues; and be baptized in water in the Name of Jesus Christ? WHY??????

Look at him afterward-- after Paul showed him to live by faith-- he is a stable Christian, telling Christians not to go by the law of Moses.

 

 

Acts 12 shows that it pleased the Jews for Herod to kill James and the other Christians and to put them into prison. Where are they good? What good is keeping that law doing them? Do you see any? I do not.

Acts 13:50--But the Jews stirred up the devout and honourable women, and the chief men of the city, and raised PERSECUTION against Paul and Barnabas, and expelled them out of their coasts.

CASE CLOSED.

This is in answer to Ekklesia's message on Man's relationship to the law;  but I posted it as a new lesson for I think maybe this way more people may read this.  I want you all to get this truth once and forever.

JO

 



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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 6/25/2008 11:47 PM
From: joie Sent: 4/18/2002 11:22 PM
In HER  was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of  ALL  that were slain upon the earth.  Rev. 18:24
 
Who is  SHE?  anyone know?  If so say  AMEN!!!

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From: isaiah Sent: 4/19/2002 4:41 AM
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From: isaiah Sent: 4/19/2002 4:50 AM
AMEN!!!!

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From: Wanna Sent: 4/19/2002 11:13 AM
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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 6/25/2008 11:48 PM
From: pillar Sent: 4/19/2002 11:54 AM
they that are born from the Spirit are perscuted from them that are born from the flesh, 
In HER  was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of  ALL  that were slain upon the earth.  Rev. 18:24
 
Who is  SHE?  anyone know?  If so say amen
Jerusalem that is in bondage with her children, they that are born out of the carnal letter of the Word, they that fullfill the desire of the flesh and mind, flesh is the natural body, body is the book or bible, and even though we walk in this flesh we do not war after it, but we must allow the Spirit of God lead us into all truth.  pillar

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From: joie Sent: 4/19/2002 10:27 PM
The 'letter' refers to the law;  not our flesh.  It most certainly is NOT  the Written Word.  So many false preachers have taught this, till they have actually caused people to think that if they read the Word it would kill them; therefore they refuse to study the word.
This is the height of stupidity.  We are told to study the Word to show ourselves approved to God.
 
JO

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From: tomdoley Sent: 4/21/2002 3:28 PM
Sure she is the Roman Catholic Church.


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 6/25/2008 11:48 PM
From: joie Sent: 4/22/2002 11:18 AM
Tom, that is only 1/3 of the answer. 
 
The  GREAT CITY, old Jerusalem, was  DIVIDED into three parts.  Did you not ever read that in Rev?
 
The Catholic Church was only the first division.  Then it divided again into the Protestant churches.  Then it divided again into these modern day, fake, image to the beast Pentecostal churches.  That is the three divisions of that old whore city Jerusalem.
 
Jesus said that old Jerusalem was the whore.  He said  that all the blood shed on the earth was shed in that Great City of Jerusalem.  In Rev. he called it Babylon.  He said all the blood shed on the earth was shed in this Babylon. So, that could only mean one thing:  Old Jerusalem divided up into three branches of false religion:  the Catholic, Protestant, and Fake Pentecostal churches.
 
Jo
p.s. --The present day Pentecostals prove they are part of that evil, idol loving system by making the image to that beast (false religion)-- in that they set up the expensive, fancy castles, which God hates;  they keep all the idolatous, devil worshiping holidays;  they pattern themselves after the worldly churches;  they are more interested in getting money, numbers, and big crowds than in spiritual matters.  They participate heavily in the thing Jesus identified as the desolation of Jerusalem:  merchandizing.  Yes, all these churches think nothing about dealing in merchandizing; which Jesus said was the mark of the beast.
 
They now set up ball teams,  send the children out of church to play instead of learning to worhip God.  They are part of this evil old Babylon; which is old Jerusalem in disguise.
 

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