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 Message 6 of 19 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nickname†GraveRobber�?/nobr>  in response to Message 5Sent: 9/10/2005 5:43 AM
Joie,
First, I would like to say, "Greetings to you in the name of Jesus. Second, my username is "Jesus†Freek," NOT "Freak."  Third, if I wanted to use the word "freak" it means nothing more than a person with a strong and habitual liking for something; meaning, I love Jesus very much. Is that wrong?
 
As I stated in my message (which I hope you read it throughly), I said, "Although the word "trinity" does not appear in the Bible, the "trinitarian formula" is mentioned in the Great Commission (Matt. 28:19) and in the benediction of the apostle Paul’s Second Epistle to the Corinthians (2 Cor. 13:14)." Therefore, the "trinity" is simply a word to describe the relationship of Father, Son and Holy Spirit and the Scripture allude to the trinitarian idea.
 
Let's look at these Scriptures.
  • In Matthew 28:19 it says, "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:" (KJV)
  • In 2 Corinthians 13:14, Paul writes, "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen" (KJV)

If these two verses do not indicate the allusion to a three person in one god, then I don't know what does. It's obvious in these two verses, God is the Father, God is the Son (the Word of God), God is the Spirit. Three in one. Do you not see this?

Jesus was human and God, in the flesh.

  • John 1:1-4, 14 - "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men." "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." (KJV)

Jesus is the great God, Savior, God over all, as LORD (YHWH - God's personal name), God's equal, creator of all, is above all, God with us.  

  • John 8:58 - "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM." --- Exodus 3:14 - "And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you." (KJV) 
  • Titus 2:13, - "Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;" (KJV)
  • Romans 9:5 - "Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen." (KJV)
  • 1 Corinthians 1:2 - "Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:" (KJV)
  • Philippians 2:5, 6 - "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:" (KJV)
  • Colossians 1:12-16 "Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:" (KJV) 
  • John 3:31 - "He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all." (KJV)
  • Matthew 1:23 - "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us." (KJV)

There are many more verses that support the fact that Jesus is God, the spoken Word of God in human flesh (I just picked a few).

Here are 2 examples of the trinity at work.

  • Matthew 3:16-17 "And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." (KJV)
  • 1 John 5:6, 7 - "This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." (KJV)

Still believe that the Bible is wrong?



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     re: Question on Trinity   joie  9/10/2005 9:43 PM