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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 6/26/2007 11:10 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR>  (Original Message) Sent: 1/5/2007 10:05 PM
<NOBR>1ki 17:24</NOBR> And the woman said to Elijah, Now by this I know that thou art a man of God, and that the word of the LORD in thy mouth is truth.

<NOBR>De 18:18</NOBR> I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
<NOBR>De 18:19</NOBR> And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.

<NOBR>Joh 1:1</NOBR> In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

<NOBR>Joh 1:14</NOBR> And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

<NOBR>Joh 17:8</NOBR> For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

<NOBR>Joh 14:24</NOBR> He that loveth me NOT keepeth NOT my sayings: and the word which ye hear is NOT MINE, but the Father's which sent me.


Now, I wish to show you all a little something here.  The whole church world says that because God put his words into the mouth of Jesus, that this makes Jesus be the Word.

How do they get such reasonings?  If I give you a piece of candy and you put that candy into your mouth,  then is it correct to say that you are now candy?

This is the same kind of reasoning people are doing with the Word of God.

Now look at all the evidance above here.  Jesus plainly told us that the Word he spoke was not his words, but the Fathers which sent him.  This fits exactly what god told Moses  =  I will put my words into his mouth.

So they all assume that this made Jesus be the Word.  But it did not say Jesus is the Word.  It said God put his words into Jesus' mouth.

There is a big difference in having the word of God in your mouth, and actually being the Word of God.

So if having the Word of God in your mouth makes you be God.....then guess what?  I have found another "god' in the word.  His name if Elijah.

Yep.  Read our first verse here:
<NOBR>1ki 17:24</NOBR> And the woman said to Elijah, Now by this I know that thou art a man of God, and that the word of the LORD in thy mouth is truth.


What was this woman refering to?  The fact that Elijah had just raised her dead son back to life.  So this makes Elijah be  God  (at least according to the reasoning of 99.9999% of christian folks.

 

By Jo. Smith. me.



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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 6/26/2007 11:11 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameTweety134</NOBR> Sent: 1/11/2007 6:47 PM
Dear Freeborn,
Let me clarify something. Jesus-spoke God's Word to us. And he was flesh when he was speaking God's Word to us. That is why we say Jesus is the Word. Because he spoke God's Word that he put in Jesus mouth to speak with us. The Word comes from God. But Jesus Spoke the Word. So that is why we say Jesus is the WORD.
He told Moses also to speak the WORD also-but you will  not see people calling Moses the WORD or GOD. It was only Jesus that did this thing.
 
Tweety

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 6/26/2007 11:12 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR> Sent: 1/11/2007 7:12 PM
Tweety,  I KNOW that is what the world is saying. And that is why I did this message... to show that it is not true.
 
No where does Scripture say that Jesus is the Word.  I proved here, to anyone who can understand plain English,  That it is NOT SAYING THAT JESUS IS THE WORD.
 
It said that God put his words into the mouth of Jesus,  for Jesus to speak, or FEED this FLESH to us.
 
The very fact that the same words are spoken of Elijah  proves that having the word in your mouth does not make one be the Word.
 
Why does everyone insist on holding to their false teachings, when it is solidly proven by Scripture,  that it is not taught in Scriptrue?
 
If the Word does not tell us that Jesus is the Word, then it is best not to say that.  Do not ADD to his words.
 
So Moses spoke the Word of God.  So did all the prophets.  they all said,  thus saith the Lord God.  Did that make them be the Word?  Of course not.
 
So Jesus was no more the word than John was.  Jesus was just as much human as I am.  To say otherwise, is to change the Word,  and take away the glory that Jesus, as human flesh,  overcame sin in the flesh.
 
I know this is plain enough for even a child to understand.  Other things I have taugth you all,  proven by written Scripture,  is too clear, for anyone to MISUNDERSTAND.
 
So what is the answer?  They simply will not turn loose of man's false teachings to receive the proven Word of God.
 
I am not guessing at some far out  interpretation, as those before me did.  I am not saying mess which is not written.  I prove every word I teach with solid WRITTEN SCRIPTURE......THEN PEOPLE COME RIGHT BEHIND IT AND SAY IT IS NOT TRUE.
 
So what it proves to me is this:  people simply do not want truth. They simply will not turn loose man's teachings for the pure Word of God.  They do not wish to see truth.  They flat refuse truth, so clearly laid out,  that only willful rebellion against God could cause  them to continue to deny truth and hold to
'their'   man's false ideas.
Then that   'man'  becomes your god.
 
When you can read me a verse which says  Jesus was the Word of God,  then I will repent of what I am teaching.
 
How can you just accept such things as,    Elijah and Enoch are the two witnesses,  WITHOUT  ONE SINGLE WORD OF SCRIPTURE SAYING THIS,  AND JUST DENY WHAT IT SO CLEARLY PROVEN RIGHT HERE WITH SCRIPTURE?
 
You need to really mediatate on this matter.  I say it is not because you all have not been told.  If a person has never heard all of this,  they might have an excuse to still believe all this false doctrine.  But not any of you.  You have heard truth enough, that the only reason I can find for you to still cling to these lies, is that you simply do not want truth.
 
Jo

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 6/26/2007 11:12 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknamerollingstone444</NOBR> Sent: 1/11/2007 11:31 PM
hey freeborn,  that is pretty good.  now i see it.  so if you eat a thing, and have it in your mouth,  you become what it is.  that is good.  now i understand it.  cause Jesus had the word in his mouth,  they think he became the word.  maybe he did, because he lived the word perfectly.  i would say he became one with the word,  but not that he actually was the word.  the word is what God said.  then Jesus said it.  then the apostles said it.  now some of us say it.  problem is, which one of us?

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From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameAxs2-381</NOBR> Sent: 1/12/2007 8:31 AM
rollingstone444  for 1, I do. but does that make me God? I think you know the answer to that.

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From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR> Sent: 1/12/2007 9:45 PM
Count me in also.  His word is in my mouth.  I will not deny it.  But I guess since I had an earthly MOTHER,  I don't count.  ha.

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