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General : Noble gas electron configurations
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From: diane113  (Original Message)Sent: 8/5/2008 11:04 PM
I am working on a pre-test and I need to find out if I am understanding things.  Here are a couple questions which I would appreciate if someone would tell me if I am not correct in my answers?
 
1. In order to reach a noble gas electron configuration, how many electrons would sulfur have to adopt?
 My answer: 6.  (Is noble gas electron configuration the same thing as ground-state configuration?)
 
2. How many valence shell electrons does aluminum have?
My answer: 3.  (Is the valence shell equal to the group #?)
 
3. Which atom is not oveying the octet rule?
My answer: ICl   (I came up with this answer because both I and Cl are able to expand their valence shell beyond the octet).  The answer choices are KBr, CO2, ClF3, ICl


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From: MSN Nickname·Steve·Sent: 8/6/2008 1:39 AM
Hi Diane, for your first question, sulfur has six valence electrons, and by gaining two more (forming the sulfide ion S2�?/SUP>) it will have eight valence electrons, just like its nearest noble gas, argon.  All of the noble gases except helium have eight valence electrons (helium has two).

The word "adopt" in the question is a little confusing, but I think it means "gain" as in, "How many electrons would sulfur have to gain to reach a noble gas configuration."

You can also compare the electron configurations:

S  1s2 2s2 2p6 3s2 3p4

and for argon,

Ar  1s2 2s2 2p6 3s2 3p6

When a sulfur atom gains two electrons, it will have the same electron configuration as argon.
 
 
The "ground state" configuration of an atom is the most stable configuration.  Any atom can be in an "excited state," noble gas or otherwise.  For example, the ground state configuration of argon is,

Ar  1s2 2s2 2p6 3s2 3p6  ground state

If we promote an electron, from, say, the 3p orbital to a 3d orbital, that would be an excited state:

Ar  1s2 2s2 2p6 3s2 3p5 3d1  excited state

The electron in the 3d orbital will "fall" back to the 3p orbital so that the atom will be back in its ground state.
 
 
 
2.  That is right, aluminum has three valence electrons, the same as its group number 3A.  Some periodic tables now have the groups numbered from 1 to 18, with aluminum being in Group 13.  I prefer the old labeling, as it makes the number of valence electrons clear.  Note that the transition metal group numbers do not necessarily correspond to the number of valence electrons of those elements.
 

3ICl, iodine monochloride, can obey the octet rule (the dot structure will be just like that of I2 and Cl2 and the other halogens), as do the other compounds, but chlorine trifluoride, ClF3, cannot obey the octet rule.  This is found out when you try to draw the dot structure.  With 28 valence electrons total, you have two extra electrons which have to go on the central chlorine atom, giving it 10 electrons, an "expanded octet."
 

Steve

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From: diane113Sent: 8/6/2008 6:44 PM
Steve,
#1 and 2 I am clear on now.  Thanks...I think I am starting to understand it now.  #3 is still a little fuzzy but I just started with the octet rule so after I look on the internet a bit, I think it will clear up more of the confusion. 
 
I really do appreciate your help.  Hope you have a great day. 
 
Diane

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From: MSN Nickname·Steve·Sent: 8/7/2008 1:24 AM
OK Diane, thanks!

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