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Inorganic : Another Molecular Orbital Question
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From: MSN NicknameLeaAdams8  (Original Message)Sent: 12/19/2004 4:04 AM
Hi everyone! How do I find the average bond order n the anion SiO3 ^2-? Thanks


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From: MSN Nickname·Steve·Sent: 12/19/2004 8:50 AM
This is a surprisingly involved question!  The structure of the SiO32- ion is not analogous to that of carbonate ion, CO32-, where you have three resonance structures each with one C=O double bond, giving an average bond order of 1 1/3.  Silicon as a rule does not form pi-bonds in this fashion.  In fact, the simple ion SiO32- is unknown, just as molecular "SiO2" (analogous to CO2) is unknown; silicon oxides such as quartz and silicates actually occur in more complex structures in which each silicon has four oxygens bound to it in a tetrahedral geometry.  These tetrahedra link together in chains (as in pyroxene, ((SiO32-)n, "chain silicate"), in rings ((SiO32-)n where n = 3 or 6), in sheets (in micas), and in three-dimensional "framework minerals".

I would first consider the Si-O bonds to be simple single bonds (bond order = 1), but it is known that in some cases there is some double bond character due to silicon 3d-orbital overlap with the oxygen 2p orbital (dp-pp bonding), but this is not the same as a C=O double bond which is a classic pi-bond made from side-to-side overlap of 2p orbitals from each atom (pp-pp bonding).  Thus, in actual silicates, it is probably more accurate to describe the Si-O bonds as single bonds, but acknowledging that there may be a dp-pp contribution.
 

Steve