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From: MSN Nicknamecowsrule2Sent: 6/20/2006 2:31 PM
 
hi there steve sorry to bug you but I am finally done the alkanes and then hopefully be done chem for this year but I have a like 5 assignmnets could you possibly check them for me???  if you don't have time i understand Thanks!!!!!
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 Assignment 2 Unit 5 Hydrocarbons.doc  

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From: MSN Nicknamecowsrule2Sent: 6/20/2006 2:45 PM
here is another assignmnet please check for me! thanks!

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sorry did not attach it
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 Assignment 5 Unit 5 Hydrocarbons.doc  

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From: MSN Nickname·Steve·Sent: 6/20/2006 6:27 PM
Assignment 2

Answers to question 2 are generally OK.  The structure for 2f is missing a hydrogen if this is 1-pentyne.  Also for tidying up the names, remember that dashes go between numbers and letters, while commas go between numbers, with no spaces anywhere.

C3H4 (2h) could be several things, propyne, 1,2-propadiene, or cyclopropene.

Structure 3a is missing a hydrogen.  For 3b (ethyne) you should probably show the structure like the others (showing the triple bond) since these are structural formulas, even though there aren't any other possibilities in this case.

Check them hydrogens in 3c and 3e!  Structure 3h is an alkene; also check the number of carbons!

For question 4, remember that isomers have the same number of each kind of atom (check those hydrogens) so a butadiene would not be a structural isomer of butene.  Hint: cis and trans isomers!

Questions 5 & 7 still to do...

In question 8, larger alkane molecules are broken down into smaller alkanes, alkenes, and H2 at high temperature (around 500°C) with or without a catalyst.  This process is known as "cracking".  With a suitable catalyst, the cracking process yields alkanes with highly branched structures used in fuels such as gasoline.
 
 
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From: MSN Nickname·Steve·Sent: 6/20/2006 6:48 PM
Assignment 3 �?Arenes
 

A better name for 3f is phenol since it is always called that, rather than "hydroxybenzene".

Missing some numbers on 3g.

Name 3h as a benzene (tetrasubstituted).

For 3i, 2-phenylpropane works, but this compound would normally be called isopropylbenzene (which has the common name "cumene").

3j would be numbered "1,3" rather than "3,1".  With two OH groups on the ring, its OK to use the "hydroxy" group name as you did.  This compound has the common name "resourcinol".

Check structure 4e!  And 4f and 4g (hydrogens).  Need to do 4h (4,4-diphenyl-2-nonene).

4j �?Hydrogens!

5 �?Reactions (to do).

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From: MSN Nickname·Steve·Sent: 6/20/2006 7:13 PM
Assignment 5 �?Aldehydes & Ketones
 

3a is ethanal (acetyaldehyde) not ethanol (have to be careful with the a's and o's with aldehyde and alcohol names!).

3b is 3-hexanone (don't forget the n).

3d �?Number the main chain starting from the end that has the carbonyl group (C=O) closest to it.

3f �?Check the group!

3h is benzaldehyde.  3i is also named as a benzaldehyde.

3j �?Don't forget to include the position of the carbonyl group!  The structure is missing a hydrogen on carbon 5.

4c is actually named incorrectly in the question.  It should be named 4-ethyl-3-hexanone rather than "3-ethyl-4-hexanone" because the main chain should be numbered starting from the end that has the carbonyl group closest to it, not the ethyl group.  The structure is still OK though.

4d �?To do.. (benzene rings more trouble to make!)

4e, "2-ethyl-5-methyl-3-pentanone" is also named incorrectly in the question.  It should be called 3-methyl-4-heptanone.  Check the hydrogens in your structure!

4g �?Check them H's !

4h �?To do..

4j �?Formaldehyde; the structure just needs an H.

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From: MSN Nickname·Steve·Sent: 6/20/2006 7:28 PM
Assignment 6 �?Carboxylic Acids and Esters
 

5a �?Name?

5e �?The structure is missing a hydrogen on carbon 7.  Don't forget to alphabetize the groups in the name!

6b �?Missing a hydrogen.  Also check the hydrogens in 6f, h, & i !
 
6j �?To do..
 
 

Overall very good!  It is a lot of work to make the structures for a document (as opposed to simply drawing them by hand), and in the process it's easy to overlook "little" things like the numbers of hydrogens.
 
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hi I changed up what I had and I saw the mistakes i did and know I understand why you said it was OK!
but can you check it for me cuz I did it
 
I have been having trouble with this so yeah can you check it for me?
   a)  CH2=CH2(g)   +   Cl2(g)  --> CH2CL-CH2CL

b)      CHºC-CH3(g)  +  F2(g)  --> CHF2=CF2-CH3

c)      CHºC-CH3(g)  +  2F2(g)  --> CHF2=CF2-CH3

d)      CH3-CH=CH-CH3(l)  +  HBr(g) -->  CH3-CH2Br-CH2Br-CH3

e)      CH3-CH2-CH2-CH2-CH=CH2(l)  +  HOH(l) --> I don't know can you explain to me?

 

 

and I still don't get#7

Alkenes are produced by elimination reactions involving organic halides oralcohols.  Briefly explain each of these reactions

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From: MSN Nicknamecowsrule2Sent: 6/22/2006 6:22 PM
I fixed up evrything but I don't understand! the last little bit!
could you possible give me like something I can follow like sort of like steps???
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 unit 5 lesson + don't get!!!!.doc  

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From: MSN Nickname·Steve·Sent: 6/23/2006 7:04 AM
For doing reactions, it is necessary to memorize them in a general sense, but they will fall into categories such as "addition" and "elimination" and "substitution" for example.  It's best to first draw all of the bonds to all of the atoms, even the hydrogens, when first writing the structure of the product of an organic reaction.  Then you can be sure to get the correct number of bonds on the atoms.  Four bonds on C, three bonds on N, two bonds on O, one bond on the halogens.

                                                         Cl   Cl
                                                          |     |
a)  This one's OK.  The structure is   H–C––C–H
                                                          |     |
                                                         H     H

b)  Count the number of bonds on the alkene carbons!

c)  Again check the number of bonds on the carbons.  There should now be a single bond between the carbons rather than a double bond.

     General patterns to remember, alkyne  +  2 AB

     Adding the first "equivalent" of molecule AB gives

                                                                A         B
                                                                  \       /
      H–C C–H      +      A–B       ––�?gt;         C=C
                                                                  /       \
                                                                H         H

Adding the second equivalent of AB gives

       A        B                                               A    B
         \      /                                                   |     |
          C=C           +        A–B      ––�?gt;      H–C––C–H
         /      \                                                   |     |
       H        H                                                A    B

"A–B" can be H–H (H2), H–Cl, Cl–Cl (Cl2), H–OH (H2O), and H–OR (an alcohol) for example.

Remember, four bonds on carbon! 

d)  Use the second general pattern above.  Draw the structure of the starting alkene also, that helps.  After a little practice you'll get used to the condensed structural formulas, but at first it's very easy to make mistakes with them since most of the bonds are not shown.

e)  In this reaction (hydration, addition of water) "A–B" is "H–OH".  Add H to one of the alkene carbons and the OH group to the other, bonded to the oxygen (same reaction pattern as above).  This reaction obeys Markovnikov's rule which says, when adding "H–Y" to an alkene or alkyne, the H atom goes to the alkene or alkyne carbon that already has the greater number of hydrogens (this is the "less substituted carbon").  "Y" then bonds to the other alkene or alkyne carbon (the "more substituted" carbon).  "Them that has, gets!" (the hydrogen).
 
The above reactions are all additions.  Elimination is the opposite of addition.  When you react chloroethane with a strong base like NaOH, the net result is removal or elimination of HCl although that's not literally how it happens.  The actual reaction is

    H    Cl                                      H        H
     |     |                                          \      /
H–C––C–H    +    NaOH      ––�?gt;      C=C       +     NaCl     +     H2O
     |     |                                           /      \
    H    H                                       H         H

Adding HCl back to the alkene product would give us back the original starting compound.
 

In the case of dehydration of alcohols, the net result is removal or elimination of water.  This reaction is acid-catalyzed:

    H    OH                               H         H
     |     |              H2SO4             \       /
H–C––C–H         –––––�?gt;            C=C        +      H2O
     |     |                heat               /       \
    H    H                                  H         H

Adding water back to the alkene would reform the original alcohol. 
 

Not to complicate things too much, but there is also a rule regarding eliminations that's similar to Markovnikov's rule.  It is called Zaitsev's rule and it simply says that when you can form more than one alkene product by an elimination reaction, the most stable alkene product is most favored to form, which is the "most highly substituted" alkene.  Here's an example:

                Cl
                |
CH3–CH2–CH–CH3   +   NaOH    ––�?gt;    CH3–CH=CH–CH3       +       CH3–CH2–CH=CH2       ( +   NaCl   +   H2O )
   2-chlorobutane                                           2-butene                              1-butene
                                                                major product                       minor product
                                                         (a disubstituted alkene)       (a monosubstituted alkene)
 
 
 
Remember, "Four bonds on carbon!"

Steve

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From: MSN Nickname·Steve·Sent: 6/23/2006 7:30 AM
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a)   benzene   +   Cl2     ––––�?gt;     chlorobenzene    +    HCl
                                    FeCl3

This is a substitution reaction because a benzene hydrogen was replaced or substituted with a chlorine atom.  This reaction usually requires a catalyst such as FeCl3 or AlCl3.

b)   This is probably a combustion reaction.  The products of the complete combustion of a hydrocarbon are CO2 and H2O.

c)   This is an addition reaction of "H–Y" to an alkene.  We can represent H–Y a little more accurately as "H–OPh" where "Ph" stands for the "phenyl" group which is the benzene ring part.  Recall that you can add water, "H–OH" and alcohols, "H–OR" to an alkene double bond in the presence of an acid catalyst such as H2SO4.  In this case we are adding phenol, C6H5OH or "PhOH", to the double bond.  Phenols are similar to alcohols in many of their reactions.  The H will add to one alkene carbon and the OPh group to the other alkene carbon (bonded to the oxygen).
 

Steve

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