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| | From:  FLFroggie (Original Message) | Sent: 2/4/2008 4:01 PM |
I am still searching for a dietician, so until I find one I am on my own I guess. The hospital told me a 1800 calorie diet with 45 grams of carbs per meal and 15 for my bedtime snack (read this on my papers from the hospital). I know I still need to lose about 10 pounds. Previously I was doing Weight Watchers. Now I am having trouble adjusting my WW to match getting in my carbs. How do you do it? Do you count carbs? Do you use the exchange list? Is the eschange list something someone has to set up for you? I just can't imagine how I'm going to lose 10 pounds witha s much as I have to eat now. |
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| | | From: sarahQ | Sent: 2/4/2008 9:57 PM |
You don't have to eat the 45 carbs/meal you can eat less if you want too  Are you a type 1 or 2? and what meds are you on? |
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To lose weight, you have to eat less than you burn. Simple math. The less calories you eat, the easier it is to lose weight. Your body burns a certain amount of calories to maintain your 98.6 body temperature. Certain activities burn more, especailly aerobic activity (walking, running, swimming, dancing...you get the picture? Just moving your body). Carbs contribute to the sugar load in your blood. The less carbs you eat, the easier it is to keep your sugars down. But you need carbs to nourish the cells. So it becomes a balancing act. They say the last 10 pounds are the toughest to lose. It requires patience, and increasing your activity level. The smaller you are, the less effort it takes to move your body. So the same level of activity is no longer burning the same level of calories. Seems unfair, huh? True. As you approach your goal weight, peer pressure can often make you more suceptible to temptations in foods. Once you see a benefit in the mirror, your willpower tends to be more lax. But stay with it! You can do it if you set your mind to it! HUGS! sheryl |
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I am Type 1. I am still adjusting my insulin dose. It has been very difficult for me to keep it under control so far and worrying about putting more weight back on is just making it harder for me. I think my biggest problem would be eating less carbs to lower my sugar but then I would most likely end up getting too low too soon at work. I guess I'll just continue on along while adjusting my insulin with my primary doctor and hope I can see a dietician soon. |
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| | | From: sarahQ | Sent: 2/6/2008 8:23 AM |
Ah ok I didn't realise you were newly diagnosed. Your body is adjusting after the massive shock to it developing diabetes. You will gain back the weight you lost whilst this is happening. Once you are sorted and stable then start to lose weight if you need to. Losing weight can only be done by limiting calories/carbs and exercise. But do not do this until you are stable with your diabetes otherwise you will never sort yourself out Once you have good numbers you can work out your carb/insulin ratio and eat what you want. |
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Thanks for all the input. I guess I'll worry about staying steady and getting it all under control. I've put back on 4 of my lost pounds. I'll weigh again on Friday |
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I have basically kept at the same weight during my 51 years with Type 1.. that I credit to a 1,600 calorie a day food plan and ...walking!! Daily either outdoors and/or indoors. It need not be strenuous and never boring .. there are so many places to walk at. Lose the 10lbs slowly ... that way it stays off ;) ~Annette~ |
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| | | From: Julie | Sent: 2/23/2008 9:51 PM |
I was always 15-20 pounds fatter than I wanted to be until I went on Symlin 2 years ago. Symlin is an injectible drug for people who take insulin. It keeps you from getting hungry right after you eat, so you eat less. It also slows down digestion, which helps prevent post-prandial spikes in blood sugar. And it keeps the liver from releasing glucose when you take insulin, which used to mean taking more insulin, which also kept the pounds on. Anyhow, I lost 20 pounds with Symlin and have kept them off. I only wish this drug had been around when I was first diagnosed 25 years ago, but it has only been available a few years. And for people not on insulin, there is Byetta, which does pretty much the same thing. Julie |
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| | | From: sarahQ | Sent: 2/24/2008 8:39 AM |
Would not a high fibre diet do the same thing as Symlin? Would be a lot cheaper on the pocket too. |
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| | | From: Julie | Sent: 2/24/2008 6:01 PM |
I'm not sure how the high fibre diet would compare to Symlin, Sarah. It might help to slow stomach emptying, but I'm not sure if the results would be identical to Symlin. What I have read and been told by health professionals is that diabetics have quick stomach emptying because we lack the hormone Amylin and that is why we are always hungry and also why our blood sugars spike after meals even when we use rapid-acting insulins. Both things were true for me. I hated being hungry 24 hours a day and always thinking about food all the time. Now I can eat breakfast, and not think about food at work until it is past time for lunch, and then again be able to work the afternoon without visions of the vending machines dancing through my head. My BS readings after meals is also better. It was also good for me psychologically to know that being overweight was not my fault - that just as diabetics do not produce insulin, we also do not produce amylin, and just as my novolog replaces the insulin my body refuses to manufacture, my Symlin replaces the Amylin my body refuses to make. For those who do not have it covered by insurance, cost would be a huge factor. It's not a cheap drug. For me, lucky enough to have insurance, it is a godsend. Julie |
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| | | From: sarahQ | Sent: 2/24/2008 6:40 PM |
Hi Julie, I was brought up on a high fibre low fat diet and can honestly say I very rarely feel hungry. I don't have weight issues either. Hence why I wondered if having a high fibre diet would do the same thing SarahQ |
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| | | From: Julie | Sent: 2/24/2008 9:30 PM |
It sounds like the natural way worked for you, Sarah, and always did. That is great! You would not even be a candidate for Symlin, especially if you don't have a problem with the post-prandial high BS. It is recommended for those with a higher than recommended A1C, due to post-prandial highs, and also those who had constant hunger and needed help with hunger and weight problems. All of those things were me. I was a perfect candidate for it. Julie |
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This is a discussion I had with my diabetic nurse and although I know about symlin she never mentioned it, but I have had trouble most of my life with weight, I came from a family of diabetes and we all have the same problems, we are always suffering from a lack of energy even to exercise and if we forget to exercise weight gain is instant,I can regain the same weight I lost a day ago, fast and furious. The thing which worries me the most is heart disease. I have come to realize that more than ever we need a diet to prevent that,even at normal weight heart disease for diabetics is a problem.
Angelian |
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Well lets see here,, im kinda in the same boat but mine is that last 5 lbs,, if i wanted to go 10lbs id probably have to stop eating LOL. Those last 10 lbs are the hardest. For myself i cant excersise like i use to,, long story but even walking i cant do much off,, i always break something and not cuz im always a cluts either LOL. For me what i do that helps me lots is i eat a TON of veggies!! and they fill me right up!! With little carbs with it if any at times. i eat so many veggies that carbs dont need to put in my diet,, for example at dinner time i will saute in olive oil sliced fresh mushrooms,, one red pepper,, one orange or yellow pepper and grated fresh garlic YUM! Its a ton of food and filling,, but when i started to do that for dinners and had low calorie can of soup thats filling for lunch,, i dropped the weight easily,, still cant get that last five lbs off but not to worried about it at this point. Sometimes changing your excersise routine helps also,, doing something different for excersise then what your use to helps alot! And changing your diet helps too. Like i said veggies have done me right :0) Its all about change tho honestly for your body cuz that same routine your body finally gets use to and you come to a stop so change it up. Good luck,, take care Hugs Susie |
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