MSN Home  |  My MSN  |  Hotmail
Sign in to Windows Live ID Web Search:   
go to MSNGroups 
Free Forum Hosting
 
Important Announcement Important Announcement
The MSN Groups service will close in February 2009. You can move your group to Multiply, MSN’s partner for online groups. Learn More
Dreams & HoroscopesContains "mature" content, but not necessarily adult.[email protected] 
  
What's New
  
  WELCOME  
  -Rules-  
  MESSAGE BOARDS  
  ASTROLOGY  
  DREAMS  
  ASK FOR ADVICE  
  PHILOSOPHY  
  EDGAR CAYCE  
  OFF TOPIC  
  Pictures  
  SUGGESTION BOX  
  VIDEOS ,FUN  
  OUR NATAL CHARTS  
  OUR MEMBERS PHOTOS  
  POETRY & MUSINGS  
  Holiday Magic  
  ASTROLOGY TOOLS  
  Sidereal Charts  
  Galactic Center  
  Travel Photos  
  Politics  
  
  
  Tools  
 
OFF TOPIC : Clock counts down for Large Hadron Collider activation
Choose another message board
 
     
Reply
 Message 1 of 7 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameFlashgordGem  (Original Message)Sent: 6/29/2008 11:16 PM
something I saw recently on another website , I thought I'd share the information,I'm not too clued up on the ins-and outs of particle acceleration but I think this has been in development for a long time now?


http://www.geek.com/clock-counts-down-for-large-hadron-collider-activation-20080612/

Clock counts down for Large Hadron Collider activation

by Doug Osborne posted on June 12, 2008 11:09 am

In just 26 days, the world’s largest particle accelerator will be turned on and the world as we know it will be changed forever. Hopefully that means in a good way and not everything blowing up in an end-of-the-worldy kinda way.

Seriously though, preparations are still ongoing for the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) to be activated next month with scientists and physicists around the globe litterally frothing at the mouth to see what this baby can do. At 17 miles in length and built 300 feet below the surface of Meyrin, Switzerland, the LCH stands to potentially unlock secrets of the building blocks of the Universe.

If smashing particles together doesn’t sound all that interesting, keep in mind that the world’s fastest Internet is also scheduled to be activated the same time as the LHC. Called, “The Grid,�?and also created by CERN, it will be an Internet connection rated at 10,000 times faster than current broadband speeds and will be used to share LHC research data with 11 data centers around the world.

See the LHC coundown clock at LHCountdown.com.

Read more at Gizmodo.


First  Previous  2-7 of 7  Next  Last 
Reply
 Message 2 of 7 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 6/30/2008 10:46 PM
It's interesting  how some in our societies, like the scientists here are trying to unlock the (so-called) secrets of the universe, while others like G. W. Bush and the like are trying to use C.I.A. operations, (not trying, they actually ARE using and intensifying them right now in Iran)......to probably created WW3 soon enough.
 
Each of us as souls are on our way to individualizing some manner of consicousness, a higher one, but some are intent upon destruction rather then evolving their consciousnesses.
 
I suppose those who reside in their depth of darkness like the Bushes of the world, will eventually get there too.
 
 

Reply
 Message 3 of 7 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameFlashgordGemSent: 6/30/2008 11:29 PM
hmm maybe we are all unlocking our own personal universe's in our own ways,learning lessons as we go.

I'll see if I can find some more info on the Large Hadron Collider and post it up in here.

Reply
 Message 4 of 7 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameFlashgordGemSent: 7/3/2008 12:55 AM
Scientists Allay Fears of Hadron-Triggered Planetary Meltdown

http://www.technewsworld.com/story/Scientists-Allay-Fears-of-Hadron-Triggered-Planetary-Meltdown-63621.html

Rest at ease: Physicists say fears over a powerful atom smasher leading to the end of the Earth are completely unfounded. A group of critics of the Large Hadron Collider -- a machine built 330 feet underground in Europe -- filed a lawsuit to try to stop its initialization. They worried the collider's operation could create black holes that would swallow up the planet. These worries, scientists say, border on absurdity.

The government agrees, too: Just last week, the U.S. Justice Department filed a motion to stop the lawsuit. The LHC is scheduled to start its initial test runs in August. Physicists say the process will be absolutely unharmful -- and could lead to discoveries that are nothing short of astonishing.
The New Frontier

Buried deep below the France-Switzerland border, the LHC will collide particles at very high energies. The goal is to try to track down new subatomic particles that could reveal unknown details about our universe.

"It really represents the frontier in elementary physics research," Steve Giddings, professor of physics at UC Santa Barbara, told TechNewsWorld. "We're expecting that it could reveal new things about the structure of matter. We might see extra dimensions of space revealed to us and could learn about the forces of nature," he said.

As with any experiment, the LHC focuses on the unknown -- which may have led to the recent speculation about its safety.

"Because this facility is pushing the edge of knowledge, there is uncertainty about what will be found," W. Nielsen Brandt, professor of astronomy and astrophysics at Pennsylvania State University, told TechNewsWorld.

"There is one type of theory that suggests that if the universe is a certain way, it may be possible to create small black holes at much lower energies than might have been expected," he explained.
Black Hole Happenings

There is a possibility -- albeit a remote one -- that those types of small black holes could be created by the LHC. Even if that did happen, scientists say, those holes would pose no danger to anyone.

"We know that there are cosmic rays striking the earth's atmosphere all the time," Brandt said. "Some of these cosmic rays have far more energy than anything that is going to be created in the LHC -- so if the LHC were going to create mini-black holes that were going to grow somehow and swallow up the Earth, this would have happened long ago naturally."

Ultimately, the LHC is reproducing processes already occurring -- it's just doing it in a controlled, rather than a random, environment Rackspace now offers green hosting solutions at the same cost without sacrificing performance. Make the eco-friendly choice..

"I'm not aware of any way the LHC is somehow going out in a new direction that has not already been done by nature," Brandt noted.
Layers of Safety

There are even more layers of safety beyond the natural occurrences, too -- one of which comes from basic physics laws first noted by Stephen Hawking.

"People might initially think the idea of those black holes is disconcerting, but what they don't realize is that they are governed by the laws of quantum mechanics," said Giddings, who just published new research on the particle collider's safety this week. "As Hawking first realized quite some time ago, basic quantum physics implies that [the black holes] just temporarily flash into existence and then vanish in an extremely tiny fraction of a second."

All these factors combine into a secure scenario that is leading to surprise within the scientific community over the misguided concern.

"To start with, it's a long shot that we're going to produce black holes at all. Basic quantum physics implies that if there were any of these black holes, they'd vanish almost instantaneously -- so this notion that there could be stable ones is an extremely bizarre scenario," Giddings told TechNewsWorld.

"It's remarkable how much it's been played up," he added.

The worry strikes some as a simple misunderstanding of the processes at play. Most physicists say they won't even take the claims seriously because they are so unrealistic.

"I think these concerns grew out of not having a full understanding of everything that has occurred in nature naturally," Brandt said. "I'm able to sleep comfortably at night not worrying we're about to be swallowed up by a black hole once they turn the LHC on," he laughed.

Reply
 Message 5 of 7 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 7/7/2008 2:02 AM
I posted a new link on the Black HOles

Reply
 Message 6 of 7 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameFlashgordGemSent: 8/7/2008 11:56 AM
some amazing pictures:

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/08/the_large_hadron_collider.html

Reply
 Message 7 of 7 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameFlashgordGemSent: 9/9/2008 7:56 PM
hey debs and all there is an interesting discussion on it on the astro.com board.

http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?num=1220880040


First  Previous  2-7 of 7  Next  Last 
Return to OFF TOPIC