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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKate  (Original Message)Sent: 6/16/2008 3:37 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknamekozzmikk</NOBR>  (Original Message) Sent: 2008/06/16 03:01 PM
Hi I hope someone can help me i am looking for info on Alfred Briggs born 10/3/1875 Great Yawnmonth England we have no i dea how he got to australia but he married a Kathleen Isabella Browron born 03 Mar 1882 from Glebe Sydney. would realy appresiate any info as my step mum and her sister are the last of the line here and would love to make contact with relos any where thank you for your time kozz


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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 6/16/2008 4:07 PM
Kozzie - Do you have access to the English censuses?  I have found Alfred with his family in 1881.  He was born in Gorleston-on-Sea, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk.  Parents Joseph Briggs born Barking, Essex c1833 and Sarah born Braintree, Essex c1837.  Here they are:
 
 
1881 Census of England

Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation 
 Joseph BRIGGS   Head   M   Male   48   Barking, Essex, England   Blacksmith    
 Sarah BRIGGS   Wife   M   Female   44   Braintree, Essex, England   
 Joseph BRIGGS   Son    Male   14   Gorleston, Norfolk, England   Blacksmith    
 Mary Ann BRIGGS   Daur    Female   12   Gorleston, Norfolk   Scholar    
 Robert William BRIGGS   Son      Male   10   Gorleston, Norfolk   Scholar    
 Frederick BRIGGS   Son      Male   8   Gorleston, Norfolk, England   Scholar    
 Alfred BRIGGS   Son      Male   7   Gorleston, Norfolk, England   Scholar    
 Henry BRIGGS   Son      Male   3   Gorleston, Norfolk, England  
 
Marian
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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 6/16/2008 4:56 PM
Kozzie - Have you joined Genes Reunited?  This is one of the best ways to make contact with living relatives.
 
Marian
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 Message 6 of 18 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 6/16/2008 5:16 PM

Name:

Alfred Briggs
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Crew
Gender: Male
Where born: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Vessels
Town: At Sea
County/Island: Royal Navy
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:
Registration district: Royal Navy at Sea and in Ports Abroad
Sub registration district: RN Ships
ED, institution, or vessel: Warspite

 

On the census night of 31 March 1901, Alfred is in the Royal Navy age 27 and listed as a stoker on board the "Warspite".

Marian


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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 6/16/2008 5:17 PM
In 1861 and 1871 Alfred's father Joseph was a Ship Smith.  He and Sarah are listed with the 8 children they had at that stage.
 
Elizabeth A. Briggs born Barking c1857
Sarah Jane  b Barking c1859
Alice Emma  b Barking c1861
Esther E.  b Gorleston c1860
Clara   b Gorleston  c1863
Joseph  b Gorleston  c1867
Mary Ann  b Gorleston  c1869
Robert W.  8 months  b Gorleston  c1871
 
Marian

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 Message 8 of 18 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 6/16/2008 6:48 PM
Hi Kozzie
 
These are the birth registrations of the children of Joseph and Sarah Briggs:
 
 
Births Mar 1857  
Briggs  Elizabeth Alice     Romford  4a 91

Births Mar 1859  
BRIGGS  Sarah Jane     Romford  4a 101

Births Mar 1861  
BRIGGS  Alice Emma     Romford  4a 100

Births Mar 1863  
BRIGGS  Esther Eliza     Mutford  4a 725

Births Mar 1865  
BRIGGS  Clara     Mutford  4a 756

Births Dec 1866  
Briggs  Joseph     Mutford  4a 710

Births Sep 1868  
 BRIGGS  Mary Ann     Mutford  4a 703   

Births Sep 1870   
 Briggs  Robert William     Mutford  4a 711  

Births Dec 1872  
BRIGGS  Frederick George     Mutford  4a 77_   

Births Jun 1875  
 Briggs  Alfred     Mutford  4a 793

Births Sep 1877  
Briggs  Henry     Mutford  4a 760
 
 
So we can see that the family left Essex and moved to Norfolk between 1861 and 1863.
 
Marian
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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 6/16/2008 6:53 PM
By 1891, I am afraid that Sarah was widowed and living in the workhouse in Romford, Essex.  So I searched for a death record for Joseph and found this.  He was age 50.
 
 
Deaths Dec 1885   (>99%)
Briggs  Joseph  50  Romford  4a 172  

 

Marian


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 Message 10 of 18 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 6/16/2008 7:09 PM
Kozzie - Going back to 1851, I have found Joseph with HIS parents, William and Esther. 
 
1851 
 
Living in Are Street, Barking, Essex.
 
William Briggs  59  Fisherman  born c1792
Esther Briggs  57  Wife  born c1794
Joseph Briggs  17  Son   Blacksmith  born c1834
 
1841
 
Esther age 40 is living with Mary age 20, Eliza age 15 (both listed as servants) and Joseph age 8.  Perhaps her husband was away fishing that night.  There are a few other fishermen's wives on the same page.  It says that Esther was not born in the county of Essex.
 
Hope all of this is helpful.
 
Marian
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 Message 11 of 18 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 6/16/2008 7:10 PM
Ages in the 1841 census were rounded down to the nearest 5 years.
 
Marian

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 6/16/2008 7:14 PM
Here is William Briggs' marriage to Esther TURNER.
 
 
WILLIAM BRIGGS Pedigree
  Male   Family

Event(s):
Birth: 
Christening: 
Death: 
Burial: 

Marriages:
  Spouse:  ESTHER TURNER Family
  Marriage: 
03 NOV 1814   Barking, Essex, England

 

Marian


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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 6/16/2008 7:21 PM
William's birth record.  His father was also William.
 
 
WILLIAM BRIGGS Pedigree
  Male    

Event(s):
Birth: 
Christening: 
FEB 1792   Romford, Essex, England
Death: 
Burial: 

Parents:
  Father: 

WILLIAM BRIGGS

 

 

Marian

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 Message 14 of 18 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 6/16/2008 9:50 PM
Hi Kozzie
 
We are not certain, but we feel this could be Joseph and Sarah's marriage.  There is no other marriage in the records that fits the timeframe and other details.  Essex is adjacent to London. 
 
Marriages Dec 1855

BRIGGS  Joseph    London  1c 195
CARTER  Sarah     London  1c 195

 

Marian



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 Message 15 of 18 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknamekozzmikkSent: 6/18/2008 2:01 PM
hi    i would just like to thank everyone for the info you gave me i would just like to know if anyone can tall me when he came to australia and if this is 

Descendants of Kathleen Isabella Browron

1 Kathleen Isabella Browron 1882 - 1960 Born: 03 Mar 1882 in Glebe Sydney d: 17 Oct 1960 in Ryde NSW reg no 36226/1960

Married: 1911 in Newtown NSW reg no 6435/1911

. +Alfred Briggs 1875 - Born: 10 Mar 1875 in Great Yawnmonth England ...........

...........2 Alferd W Briggs 1913 - Born: 1913 in Annandale NSW reg no 13959/1913

........... 2 Henery Joseph Briggs 1914 - 1974 Born: 18 Aug 1914 in Annandale NSW reg no 27253/1914 d: 05 Apr 1974 in Norht Ryde NSW reg no 2265/1974

............... +Myra Florence Johnstone 1912 - 1970 Born: 15 Nov 1912 in Carlton Victoria Married: 29 May 1937 in St Bedes Church Of England Drummoyne NSW reg no 6393/1937 d: 1970 in Bulli NSW reg no 28132/1970 Burial: 1970 falkner Cemetary Vic

........... *2nd Wife of Henery Joseph Briggs:

............... +Gwen Married: 1960 in about Parramatta

........... 2 Kathleen Cecile Briggs 1916 - Born: 1916 in Annandale NSW reg no 1474/1916

............... +Edward George Barsby Married: 1941 in Drummoyne NSW reg no 1364/1941

........... 2 Elsie Jean Briggs 1918 - Born: 1918 in Marrickville NSW reg no 2657/1918

............... +Richard Henry BICKERTON Married: 1942 in Drummoyne NSW reg no 12632/1942

 as i dont want to give mum the wrong info  thank you for your time kozz

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 6/18/2008 2:40 PM
Yes Kozzie, that is the Alfred Briggs whose family I traced back for you. 
 
Please note that he was born in Gorleston-on-Sea, Great YARMOUTH (not Yawnmouth), in the county of Norfolk.
 
Hope it was helpful.
 
Marian
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 Message 17 of 18 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 6/18/2008 2:43 PM
Kozzie - he must have gone to Australia after 1901, since he was on that census in the Royal Navy -- see message no. 6.
 
Marian
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From: MSN NicknamekozzmikkSent: 6/18/2008 4:30 PM
Thank you again for your time mum will be happy do you know where i could get some info on his brothers and sisters as i have no idea where to stat looking i looked on ansestry but noone there is doing his tree othe than me  thank youagain kozz

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