Thanks Marian but the census forms you downloaded are not the correct census forms for this family.  1871 census: RG10/2905/85/18 Burton on Trent, Staffordshire. Schedule No. 61, Court 5, New St. also 1881 census: RG11/2735/80/12 Longton, Stoke On Trent, Staffordshire, Schedule No.68, 28 Edensor Rd. Pages 12 & 13 are the correct census forms.  Regards Joan