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Surname H : HOLMES Thomas
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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKate  (Original Message)Sent: 10/22/2007 1:00 AM
From: pammyj  (Original Message) Sent: 2007/10/22 12:28 AM
  
Hi everyone
could one of you special managers see if you can find any information on a
Thomas HOLMES and his wife Betsy nee SULLIVAN, they had 3 sons Richard HOLMES born about 1823,James HOLMES born abt 1827 ?? Waterford, county Kilkenny,Ireland,Michael HOLMES born about 1831, there may have been other children born to Betsy and Thomas HOLMES, i dont know birth place of the sons and was taking a punt on James being born Waterford.
 
Richard,James and Michael HOLMES were all convicts departing Dublin 4 August 1849, arriving Sydney, New South Wales, Australia 8 November 1849 on the convict ship "Havering",the 3 brothers were all tried in Waterford 31 March 1848 for stealing potatoes, and each were sentenced for Transportation for 7 years.
I have the marriages of the 3 lads and children of James.
 
Any information on Betsy and Thomas HOLMES i would be very grateful
it would be nice to find other children if any born to them
 
Many many thanks
Pam


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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 10/22/2007 1:03 AM
Hi Pammy 
 
One of us will get on to it in the next day or so.  I have moved your message on to the 'H' surname board as it will be seen there.
 
Best wishes
Marian  

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 10/22/2007 1:29 AM
From: pammyj  in response to Message 2 Sent: 2007/10/22 01:09 AM
Thanks Maz
sorry was having a blonde moment, i should have sent it to H lol
 
Pam xx


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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 10/23/2007 6:59 PM
Hi Pammy
 
So far we have only found the following.
 
On GENES REUNITED
Search for Holmes born Ireland 
Forename Year of birth Place of birth Prior contact Tree owner View match
John          1835              Kilkenny, Ireland No              Michael
James        1830              Ireland                No              Catriona
 
Wondering if John Holmes could possibly be a relative, as born in Kilkenny.  James is a few years out. Are you a member of GR? 
 
Marian 

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From: pammyjSent: 10/23/2007 11:26 PM
Hi Marian and Mike
thank you both so much for helping me look for my husbands ancestors
i am not sure where the HOLMES lads were born, but they tried at Waterford,
i am not a member of Genesreunited
 
Pam
 
 

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 10/23/2007 11:54 PM
Hi Pammy,We will keep trying on this for you
 
Mike

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 10/24/2007 11:46 PM
HOLMES Michael - Havering 8/11/1849 Dublin - Waterford 0 - - Scone
 
HOLMES Michael  Havering 1849 55/0034 29 Aug 1855 4/4416 1027 TL 49/118
cert of freedom
 
HOLMES Michael - Havering 1849 50/0058 17 Jan 1850 - [4/4273] 979 On the recommendation of Commissioner of Crown Lands Clarence River
ticket of leave passport
 
HOLMES Richard - Havering 8/11/1849 Dublin - Waterford 0 - - Scone
 
HOLMES Richard - Havering 1849 50/0001 17 Jan 1850 - [4/4273] 979 On the recommendation of Commissioner of Crown Lands Clarence River
 
HOLMES Richard  Havering 1849 55/0033 29 Aug 1855 4/4416 1027 TL 49/1186
cert of freedom

HOLMES James - Havering 1849 50/0059 17 Jan 1850 - [4/4273] 979 On the recommendation of Commissioner of Crown Lands Clarence 
 
HOLMES James  Havering 1849 55/0035 29 Aug 1855 4/4416 1027 TL 49/1187
cert of freedom

HOLMES James - Havering 8/11/1849 Dublin - Waterford 0 - - Scone
 
Pam i have listed these for you you may already have them,One is Arrival
Two is cert of Freedom
Three  Is Ticket of Leave Passport
 
Mike

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From: pammyjSent: 10/25/2007 12:54 AM
Hi Mike
thanks for the info,( i did have it ) but thanks anyway.
i have a load of info for the 3 brothers from when they arrived in Australia,
 so am eager( if possible ) to get info for them and there family when in Ireland
Appreciate very much you and Maz help
Take Care
Thanks again
Pam

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 10/25/2007 10:53 AM
Hi Pam,guessed you would have them.I checked out a few things this Morning.And found a Thomas Holmes born in Dublin.His wife was Elizabeth.The times are right to But the Area is way out.
 
THOMAS HOLMES Pedigree
  Male    
   
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Event(s):
 Birth: 
 Christening:  01 SEP 1822   St Catherin'S, Dublin, Dublin, Ireland
 
 Death: 
 Burial: 
   
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Parents:
  Father:  THOS. HOLMES  Family
  Mother:  ELIZTH.    
 I suppose its possible the boys went to Wexford or Waterford for work..What is a shame it does not give wifes surname.Im not Banking on this being correct.But its a start
 
Mike 

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