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From: MSN Nicknamerubyangels18  (Original Message)Sent: 7/2/2008 7:13 AM
Can anyone please help with information on HARTIGAN/HORTIGAN Margaret.
 
Born in Limerick abt 1807 she was arrested for stealing blankets in 1839 
Margaret arrived on the Minerva 2 in 1839. Margaret left behind a husband in Limerick. Margaret married/defacto Robert Collimore NSW. Children of Margaret and Robert are Sarah Collimore 1845-1897, Thomas Collimore 1847-1913, and Robert Collimore 1849-
 
Thanks
Leanne


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From: MSN Nicknamerubyangels18Sent: 7/3/2008 8:38 AM
Hello Liz,
 
Yes please, thankyou I would love it if you could send it to me. As always you are on the ball, you always seem to be helping me out...thankyou.
 
 
Leanne

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 Message 14 of 27 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 7/3/2008 11:35 PM
Leanne i have her maiden Name it was Horton,From another Message by BONZAI SHEILA.why dont you contact her via the email address
 
 
My name is Margaret HARTIGAN.
I have waited since 1838 to tell my story. I stole a blanket and was tried
in Limerick, Ireland. I was sentenced to 3 months jail. I was spitting
chips as I wanted to get out of Ireland and away from everyone. So, I
protested and demanded to be sent to Australia. The Governor had a fit,
didnt know what to do, and I continued to protest until I got my wish.
I came on the Minerva 2 in 1839. When I got here, I went to the Female
Factory and then was assigned to Mr. Andrews in Sydney, a man said to be of
low character and morals. If you needed a favour, he expected something in
return. I wanted to appeal against my 7 year sentence, I was illiterate, I
had little choice.
In my Memorial, I explained I had volunteered to come to Australia and asked
for a reduction in my sentence or at best, a pardon. They wrote Margaret
Hartigan has no greater Claim for a Ticket Of Leave than any other female
sentenced. I was very upset. I returned to the Factory.
A Mr. Tindall from Liverpool came to the Factory. He bought me for ₤5
and I worked as a General Servant with a wage of ₤10. It was at Mr.
Tindalls I met Robert Collimore an English convict. He was a bachelor and
seemed a nice enough type. Once I got my Ticket Of Leave in 1845 we began
to begat and had three children, Sarah, Thomas & Robert junior. We never
married as I had a husband back in Ireland. My maiden name was Horton.
No-one knows when I died or what became of my youngest son, Robert.
**
Cheers
Lesley McQ

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 Message 15 of 27 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 7/3/2008 11:44 PM
Leanne the only marriage listed in limerick for a mary Horton.Will see if anything later
but at present only one
 
 
Church Marriage Horton Mary 1805 Co. Limerick

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 Message 16 of 27 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 7/3/2008 11:49 PM
Leanne its not that Marriage in 1805 that mary married Mathew  Cloughany.
So my betting is Married in Clare.
Clare records are not on line yet
 
Mike

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 Message 17 of 27 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamerubyangels18Sent: 7/4/2008 5:14 AM
Mike,
 
This is wonderful information, thankyou so much. I have contacted Limerick Library and Lesley from the rootsweb site. I did find in records my cousin sent me...a marriage certificate for Margarets' daughter Sarah! It does have Margarets' maiden name stated on it, and yes it is Horton...I feel a little silly.  I had it all along and didn't even realise, mind you I have been ill of late so many things have escaped me.
 
Now on one of your previous messages you suggested that I could try purchasing documents from I.F.H.F, could you please tell me who they are I have no idea what the initials stand for...I am very new to searching in Ireland.
 
If she married in Clare then I will have to be patient and wait....when I am well I will go to my local library and go through the State Archive reels we have there and get all I can on Margaret...there will be stuff that I would have missed before and with more knowledge now I can perhaps find more.
 
So, for now I wait to hear back from Limerick Library and Leslie and hope for good news. My thanks to you for your assistance, you have helped me immensley and of course to Liz also who is such a gem.
 
I will let you know how I get on from the Library and Leslie.
 
Cheers
Leanne
 
 

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 Message 18 of 27 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 7/4/2008 6:39 AM
Hi Leanne the I.F.H.F is the irish family history foundation  http://www.irish-roots.ie/
 
Now this is free to join,But they do charge for there Records.5 EURO.
 
THEY HAVE LIMERICK ON THERE
 
MIKE
 

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 Message 19 of 27 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamerubyangels18Sent: 7/4/2008 6:49 AM
Thanks Mike I will go there now and check it out.
 
I heard back from Lesley and she said she doesn't have much info on Margaret, so I shall keep trying.
 
Leanne

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 Message 20 of 27 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 7/4/2008 7:57 AM
Leanne What i can gather from information found all aspects of Margarets Trial etc are held by The National Archives.If you note on this
 
Firstname:  MARGARET
 
Sex:  F
 
Age:  32
 
Soundname:  H6325
 
Trial place:  Limerick City
 
Trial date:  00/00/1839
 
Crime desc:  Larceny
 
Sentence:  Transportation 7 yrs
 
Document ref1:  TR 3, p 261
 
It gives a Document number .Now im only suggesting this,  Im unaware if any Charges
But if you Email the Archives Explain you are in Australia they may relent a Little
 
 
Hopefully they will give you some details.Give them the Doc number etc
 
Mike
 

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 Message 21 of 27 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamerubyangels18Sent: 7/4/2008 8:16 AM
Thanks Mike...done. Fingers crossed they are in a good mood and take pity on this poor Aussie. LOL
 
Leanne

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 Message 22 of 27 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 7/4/2008 8:41 AM
Hi Again Heather i really Wish you good luck with this,I contacted the Head librarian in The Archives some time back its in our general messages,About ships passengers from Aus not to.He was very helpfull,
And was also Inquiring about the Digitization .
 
Good luck
 
Mike

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 Message 23 of 27 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameablelizSent: 7/4/2008 11:52 AM
Leanne,  The site I found was the same rootsweb message that Mike has posted the details for above
Just a wonderful story so now you have the message I won't need to send it to you.
This lady Margaret HARTIGAN is not listed on the Irish convicts site so maybe she was missed.
She is probably listed on the Irish transportation index which is online
Good luck
Liz

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 Message 24 of 27 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 7/4/2008 6:17 PM
Hi liz She certainly is
 
Mike

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 Message 25 of 27 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 7/4/2008 6:36 PM
Hi Heather,I have checked further And these are the Only Limerick ones PLUS 2 POSSIBILITIES. Dont forget there are Variations Of Horton I DONT THINK its the first 2
 
Church Marriage Horton Robert 1754 Co. Limerick
 
 
 Church Marriage Horton Mary 1805 Co. Limerick
Church Marriage Houghton Stephen 1822 Co. Limerick
 
 
 Church Marriage Haughton Maria 1836 Co. Limerick
 Church Marriage Haughton Jane 1837 Co. Limerick
 Church Marriage Haughton Simon 1838 Co. Limerick 

Action Source Surname First Name Year County
 Marriage Haughton Mary 1835 Co. Kilkenny
 Marriage Haughton Mary 1838 Co. Down
 
 
 

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 Message 26 of 27 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 7/4/2008 6:38 PM
Although it says she was from Limerick Her Trial may Just have been there.She may have been Held in Limerick Assizes
 
Mike

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 7/4/2008 6:42 PM
Leanne in the Griffiths registration There were only 3 Registrations for the name Horton
 
Mike
 
Horton Thomas Clashnagooneen Whitechurch Waterford
Horton John Gillstown, Great Rathmore Meath
Horton Thomas Water Street St. Annes Shandon Cork

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