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| From:  jelora (Original Message) | Sent: 4/23/2007 1:24 AM |
Joseph Graham... possible birth 1805_1812.......Ireland... County Unknown
Attached to the Royal Artillery.. Woolwich, Kent,England
Enlisted Rank.. Assigned last duty Station ...Kingston, Magnetic Observatory, Canada West
abt 1840
Died: 6 October 1850,_ Burial 07 October 1850, Toronto, Canada... RC Cemetery
Source: We have just found a mention of relative Joseph Graham who was attached to
the Royal Artillery, Magnetic Observatory , Kingston.
These are Military notes published in the Journal of the RASC vol 39 issue
#7.
In reference to Joseph Graham , Gunner and Driver died October 6,1850:
Quoted
Magnetic Observatory,
Toronto, October 6 1850
Sir,
I have the honor to request that the necessary arrangements be made for the military interment of a late Gunner and Driver of the Royal Artillery
belonging to the detachment who expired this morning.
I have to request that a firing party be detailed of the usual number for a private soldier, and a carrying party of not less than 16 men, together with that portion of the band usually attending upon such occasions, the whole to be ready to march from the house of the deceased on Elizabeth Street to the Roman Catholic burying ground on the Kingston Road, at 2p.m. tomorrow,Monday the 7th instant.
Cause of death: Cholera
Married: Mary (maiden unknown) b.abt.1812...Ireland... County Unknown
Died: 8 Aug 1899 York.. residence Hilton St.
Following three children born Woolwich, Kent ,England
No Birth record found:
Jane .. b. 1833
Mary b. 1837
John Mary Joseph b. 1839
the above :
1._Jane never married died 18 July 1908..York
2._Mary became a Religious entered the Convent from Rochester ,Monroe County,New York,
where the family resided after the death of Joseph Graham
She was known as Sr. Mary Dominic Graham
She served in St. Joseph's Orphanage..circa 1910. Erie County, New York
Died: 19 Feb 1926
3. John Mary Joseph probably entered the Seminary in Rochester, New York
Mother Mary is found in the 1871 Canada census... York...Toronto East
age 57 b. Ireland
Only heads of Household listed in the 1871 Index
The family had returned by then from New York,since the Graham family is not
found in the 1870 Census for Rochester, Monroe County , New York
REV. John Mary Joseph Graham, Parish priest in the Archdiocese of Toronto,
Died; County of York.. Toronto..12 January 1883
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Children born Toronto Canada to:
Joseph and Mary Graham
4.Elizabeth Graham.. 1842
no further information known
5. Sarah Graham ...June 1842..1844
Notes:
1860 Census; Rochester, Monroe County New York
Sarah Graham age 16 born Canada
Married: Michael Quinn 1874
1881 Census,Cobourg,Northumberland, Canada
Sarah Quinn age 40 Ontario, Irish.. Catholic
1901 Census.. Northumberland West.. Cobourg
Sarah Quinn ..Birth date..24 Jun 1851 (?) b. Ontario..irish
1911.. Northumberland. West... Cobourg
Sarah Quinn.. Jun 1851 (?)..Ontario
Died: July 07,1920
Cobourg,
All information on death record differs from known census records
Born June 8,1852.. Rochester, New York
Scotch
Father: John Graham
Born :Scotland
Death certificate informant:
Ralf Quinn ..son
Address: Chicago ,Illinois, USA
Son born:Raphael Michael Quinn. b. 1877
Grand son of Sarah and Michael:
ARCHBISHOP JOHN R. QUINN(RETIRED) OF SAN FRANCISCO, CALIF
6.__Ann Graham
b.abt 1849 Canada
Marriage: Bernard Dolan b. abt 1832 Ireland
Father Michael_ Mother Mary
Marriage status widowed
Date: 3 July 1873 York
Ann : Single
Children:
Jane..Jennie b abt 1877 (1881 census)..USA
John...abt 1875 Ontario
Ann Graham Dolan _Died May 8,1883 ,York, Ontario, Canada
Note: 1881 Census .. Ann Dolan is living in the next household to Mary Graham ,mother and Jane Graham, sister
Bernard Dolan not living in Household but Ann is listed as Married
Census Place St. David's Ward ,Toronto, York , Ontario
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Further research: Archdiocese of Toronto, Archives
awaiting results of query to archivist.
Military records request will be forwarded to War Office, Archives _England
Judy Sindon has received all of the above information
pertaining to the Graham family records that have been located as of this date.
Jelora
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| | | From: Jude | Sent: 7/12/2007 1:41 AM |
I would like some help in finding out what happened to Elizabeth Graham b. 1842 in Canada. I am sure that she was probably born in York, Toronto, Canada, I just can't seem to find any information about her.
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Hi Judy,The following is from the 1881 Census I posted to Jel And she has asked me to post on here I found An Elizabeth Graham Born 1842 In Ontario In 1881 Census Living With Acheson Family Could this be her,Can you let us Know if you think this is Correct Mike Name Marital Status Gender Ethnic Origin Age Birthplace Occupation Religion
Thomas ACHESON Male Irish 38 O <Ontario> Farmer Church of England
Ann ACHESON M Female Irish 60 O <Ontario> Church of England
Josiah E ACHESON Male Irish 21 O <Ontario> Farmer Church of England
Lauria COLE Female Irish 10 O <Ontario> Church of England
Jane ACHESON Female Irish 24 O <Ontario> Church of England
Elizabeth GRAHAM Female Irish 39 O <Ontario> Servant Church of England
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Source Information:
Census Place Elizabethtown, Brockville, Ontario
Family History Library Film 1375868
NA Film Number C-13232
District 109
Sub-district F
Division 2
Page Number 35
Household Number 170
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| | | From: Jude | Sent: 7/12/2007 9:08 PM |
Mike this is probably her. the time and place are right, but the Graham's were Catholic, but some of the family has strayed. I would also like to know where the Graham's came from in Ireland, can you help with that? I know they were in England and then immigrated in 1840 and that is all I know about them. Don't know the mothers maiden name either. Are you up to that. LOL
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Hi Judy I can Check out a Few Bits,But Census Records Never Started till 1837.But With her Birth 1842 In Canada Does Not Help.If it is the same Graham Family Carol Looked For before We think They were From Greenwich London. Do you Have Her Parents Names,As that Might help Mike |
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| | | From: Jude | Sent: 7/13/2007 2:48 AM |
Mike, the father's name was Joseph j. Graham and the mothers name was Mary. In all the census that we have seen, it says that the Grahams were from Ireland. Joseph was in the British Royal artillery detachment and was stationed in Toronto, Canada. Several of the kids were born in Woolwich, Kent, England and the others in York, Toronto, Canada. Joseph died of Cholera in 1850 and Mary and the girls moved back to Rochester, New York, they are all in the census. Sarah Graham was married to Michael Quinn in 1874. I am sure they left Ireland for some reason and I don't know what was going on during that time of before 1840. Michael is the brother of Martin, John Quinn. I am pretty sure that the J in Joseph's name is probably for John. He named his son John Joseph Graham(parish priest in Toronto). Anyway, if you can help, I would be greatfull
Jude
ps, most of the Graham info is in Jelora's files under Graham |
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Hi Judy Leave it With Me, I will Try For you.Im off Next Week I might try to get to Kew.To see what info i can dig up Mike |
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| From: Jude | Sent: 13/07/2007 20:04 | thanks Mike, I appreciate it greatly!
Jude
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| | | From: jelora | Sent: 8/8/2007 9:03 PM |
Hi Judy, The following was received this morning in answer to a Inquiry that I had made in April. From: Richard Lelievre ( mark above the "e" in surname, my e-mail can't make the mark) Canadian Genealogy Center Client Services Division Library and Archives Canada He had enclosed a complimentary copy of: British Military and Naval Records Widow of Joseph Graham, request for provisions,1850 (RG 8-1) volume 752, page 64, microfilm reel C-3248, He states that there are no death certificates for this period as civil registration in Ontario dates from July 1, 1869. Document reads as follows: Royal Artillery ..(something) Office Monteral 12 October 1850 Sir I have the honor to request that the usual Ration of Provisions may be issued to the Widow and Four children of the late Gunner and Driver Joseph Graham, Royal Artillery from the date of his decease at Toronto CW on the 6th Instant until an opportunity offers of forwarding them to England. Signed..I have the honor to be Sir Your most obedient Servant Signatures hard to read.. Addressed to: Major Talbot, Military Secretary , Monteral I'll send Mike a scanned copy of the document,perhaps this might open the door to securing further files on Joseph. Please send me your snail mail address and I'll send you this copy from the Library. Thanks, jelora |
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| | From: jelora | Sent: 8/9/2007 1:53 AM |
Hi Judy, I have your address written down, I 've removed it from the message board. Not a good thing in today's world, to have your address out there. I wish to apologize for the spelling in the previous post . The beautiful city in Canada is Montreal not Monteral. Spell check doesn't always work! jelora |
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