Oh Lord how angry you must have been, all those years gone like that. I must say I admire your strength I would have broke down and given up.

I totally agree Mary is there somewhere, we`ll find her Mike i have faith.

Thanks & take care, catch you later Pat

HI Patsy as promised,One Mary Grace

Ok Parents Were Thomas Grace And Ellenor Cleary

Children Mary Grace 17 MAY 1865 0637, Tullaroan, Kilkenny, Ireland
Catherine Grace 20 NOV 1869 0539, Tullaroan, Kilkenny, Ireland
Thomas Grace 29 MAR 1872 Tulleroan, , Kilkenny, Ireland
Bridget Mary Grace 10 MAY 1880 , Kilkenny, Ireland

Patsy I do Believe this is your Mary,Ok you said 1871 ,She was Born 1865.So 6 yrs out .But Dont forget The Census May be slightly out

 

Mike

Patsy This is the Marriage,So you see what i mean about Census Being Slightly out,Note Marriage Date Then Note Mary

Mike

 

Thomas Grace Pedigree
  Male   Family
   

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Event(s):
 Birth:  < 1846>   <Tulleroan, , Kilkenny, Ireland>
 
 Christening: 
 Death: 
 Burial: 
   

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Marriages:
  Spouse:  Ellen Cleary  Family
  Marriage:  < 1871>   <Tulleroan, , Kilkenny, Ireland>
 

Aaahhh Yes i do see what you mean Mike. I have come across this Mary Grace before myself but dismissed her due to the year of her birth. This is wonderful !!

I will email Janet Kingsford now, Mary was her GGrandmother

Thank you very much.

Hi Patsy,Like yourself i Put to one side at first,But kept Going back It was not until I found the Marriage i realised,As i thought it two Different People But then realised,That Ellen and Ellenor Are the same,But The marriage was 1871,So it Means Those other Dates are Possibly Wrong.I have seen this numerous times on the LDS.Dont know why it happens,It has to be the submitters.possibly unable to read census properly.But it can throw you out

Mike

Hi again Mike. I need to ask your advice on Irish passenger ships.

We now know that Mary Grace went to America (date not known as yet) Im sifting through the sites you sent me still. Do you know how long it took to get from Ireland to The States back in the late1880`s ?

 

Regards pat C .... hope your having a enjoyable bank holiday weekend. I can see from my mail you have been busy.

 

Patsy I think On some ships it was several months,Not like now

 

Mike

Patsy,Im note sure if you tried this one.Beware of popups though

 

I  thought the journey would take some time, this must have been terrible for them. Ive read of ill-health & death.

 

Thanks for the links

You are welcome Patsy

 

Hi Mike

 

Janet Kingsford here you have been looking for Mary Grace for Patzy. From Marys  headstone she died 9/3/55 aged 84 years so birth date 1871 probably correct. Her husband John Brennan died 10/03/1940 aged 76 years therefore born 1863/64. Their first son Michael died  24/06/87 aged 79 years so he must have been born 1905/06 as my grandad was born 1904 as a Grace she must have married sometime between the two births. She went on to have two daughters Margaret died 27/11/90 aged 80 years and Mary (aka Mollie) died 2/07/91 aged 78 years. Hope this might help in some way

 

Janet

Hi Janet,Yes This info should help.

 

Many thanks

 

Mike

Hi Mike

 

Have found out that Mary Grace was possibly born in Clontubrid parish of Lisdowney 1870/1871 not in Tullaroan. I have also been told that it is thought that my grandad Joseph Patrick Grace was born on the ship bringing my great grandmother Mary Grace back from America. Are there any records kept of babies being born on the ship or would they be registered when the ship arrived back in Ireland.

 

Thanks Janet