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Surname L : LAVENDER Edward Henry
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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKate  (Original Message)Sent: 11/20/2007 10:14 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameMitsy_9_loves_Billy</NOBR>  (Original Message) Sent: 2007/11/19 11:21 PM
 This is for a friend of mine who did not know very much about her Grandfather.
Her Mom says this would be him, as she remembers him having a sister Violet (aka Dolly).
I have been told he was born in 1892 & died in 1942 and had been in the East Surrey Regiment (Calvary).
 
any help is very much appreciated.
Others found this much on Ancestry.com last Friday for me.
Marilyn 
(ps I hope I have requested this properly!)

1901 England Census
about Edward Lavender

Name: Edward Lavender
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Mitcham, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Mitcham
Ecclesiastical parish: Mitcham St Peter and St Paul
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:
Registration district: Croydon
Sub-registration district: Mitcham
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 270
Household Members:
Name Age
Amy Lavender 52
David Lavender 62
Edward Lavender 30
Edward Lavender 8
Jasson Lavender 11
Lily Lavender 19
Sydney Lavender 19
Violet Lavender 6


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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 11/22/2007 1:49 AM
Hi Marilyn
 
Thank for your message and welcome to our site.  I will get back to you tomorrow when I have done some searching.  Strangely enough, both Kay and I are related, albeit distantly, to the Lavender family of Mitcham!
 
Please be sure to check regularly on the "L" surname board for our findings.
 
Marian
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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 11/22/2007 2:26 AM
Hi Marilyn
 
I may be able to put you in touch with Tarina Lavender.  She has done extensive research into her family over many years so she will have a great deal of information on the Lavenders.  Please let me know your wishes on this. 
 
I am directly descended from Harriet Bray b. Ruislip, Middlesex, 1794.  Her brother James married Mary Lavender.  It is indeed a small world.
 
Marian 

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From: MSN NicknameMitsy_9_loves_BillySent: 11/22/2007 3:34 AM
Marian,
 
If Tarina would be willing I am interested. I could then direct her to my friend & her Mom, if she wanted, or continue to gather the information for them.
 
 Thanks,
Marilyn

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 11/22/2007 1:06 PM
Hi Marilyn
 
I have now contacted Tarina and will let you know when I hear from her. 
 
In the meantime, I checked the original of the 1901 census listing that you gave us.  Edward Lavender's father was also Edward and he was already widowed in 1901, age 30.  He was born in Ruislip, Middlesex c1870 or 1871.  Young Edward's grandparents were David and Amy Lavender, also both born in Ruislip.
 
Marian 

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From: MSN NicknameMitsy_9_loves_BillySent: 11/22/2007 2:47 PM
Marian,
 Does it say what occupation any of them had?
Do you know if the other people in the household were cousins to young Edward or maybe Uncle/Aunt.
Doris, Edward's daughter thinks he mentioned a cousin, Jason.
I think all the little clues are helping her remember things she did not think she knew.
 
Marilyn
 

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 11/22/2007 6:09 PM
Hi Marilyn
 
I have transcribed the details of everyone in the household on census night 1901. 
As you will see, David is the head of household, and Amy is his wife.
Edward (widower) and Lily are their son and daughter.
 
Jason, Edward and Violet are their grandchildren.  We don't know for sure who are the parents of these young children, but we can guess for the moment that Edward is their father, and that he and the grandparents are looking after the children after the loss of their mother.
Sydney age 19 is nephew to David and Amy.
 
 
1901 Census of England
 
David Lavender  Head   Married  62   born Ruislip, Middlesex.  Occupation:  Labourer, timber yard
Amy Lavender    Wife     Married  52   born Ruislip
 
Edward Lavender  Son  Widower  30  born Ruislip.  Occupation:  Labourer, timber yard
Lily Lavender        Daughter  Single 19  born  Malden, Surrey.  Occupation:  General Servant
Sydney Lavender  Nephew  Single  19  born Mitcham, Surrey.  Occupation:  General Labourer
Jason Lavender   Grandson  Single  11  born Mitcham
Edward Lavender  Grandson  Single  8  born Mitcham
Violet Lavender  Granddaughter  Single  6  born Mitcham
 
Marian

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From: MSN NicknameMitsy_9_loves_BillySent: 11/22/2007 7:06 PM
Thanks Marian,
This answers a few more questions.
Marilyn

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 11/22/2007 7:15 PM
OK Marilyn, that's good.  Now, I have checked the family ten years earlier on the 1891 census and I find Edward senior living in the same road in Mitcham with his parents David and Annie (Amy in 1901!) and Edward's younger siblings, plus his cousin Sidney.
 
I am going to try and find Edward's marriage.
 
Did you see my message no. 7?
 
 
1891 Census
 
Residing at 5 Sibthorp Road (they had moved to No. 9 Sibthorp Rd. by 1901)
 
David  Lavender  Head  Married  51  Occupation:  Shop, General Dealer
Annie    Wife  46
 
Edward  Son  Single  21   Occupation:  Inn, Barman
Rosetta  Daughter  14  Domestic Servant
Willie  Son  13 
Lillie Daughter 8
Sidney  Nephew  8
 
Marian


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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 11/22/2007 7:22 PM
Hi Marilyn
 
I have just received your e-mail, thank you, and have replied.
 
Marian

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From: MSN NicknameMitsy_9_loves_BillySent: 11/22/2007 7:34 PM
I replied to # 7 to your own address.
 
  I have often run into name changes in between census.
 
 I have explained to people how it can be mixed up.
Who gave the information, who wrote it down, etc.
Throws you for a loop sometimes.
Glad you found this.
Marilyn

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 11/22/2007 8:18 PM
Hi Marilyn
 
I found this death record for Rosa Lavender, who I think could have been Edward's wife.  Age 23 sounds about right.
 
Deaths Mar 1895   (>99%)
Lavender  Rosa  23  Croydon  2a 253 
 
Then I found this:
 
 
Surname  First name(s)    District  Vol  Page 

Marriages Jun 1893   (>99%)
Lavender  Edward    Croydon  2a 531  Scan available - click to view
Thompson  Rose    Croydon  2a 531  Scan available - click to view
 
 
I could be proven wrong on the above, this is only a suggestion.  Hopefully Tarina will have a lot more info. on the family.
 
Marian
 
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameMitsy_9_loves_BillySent: 11/26/2007 7:50 PM
Marian,
 
Tarina says Edward's Mother was a Thompson & died in 1895, so this must be her.
 
Thanks,
Marilyn
 

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 11/26/2007 9:44 PM
Hi Marilyn
 
Pleased to hear that.  If you need any further help from us, you know where we are, so don't hesitate.
 
Marian

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