Hello Lorraine and welcome,Richard Norris was an Irish Rebel ,Tried for Treason against the State..Rootsweb Lists about 10 people likeyourself searching for Richards Birth place.

Details

Alias:            Irish Rebel:           Religion: Catholic       Age on arrival: 21
Marital status: 
Calling/trade: Labourer
Born: 1779      Dublin
Tried: 1797      Dublin          Sentence: Life     Former convictions:
Ship: Minerva (1800)
Crime: 
Description:
Remarks: 
Spouse: m 1802 Green Hills Mary Williams (d 1863)

 

 

 

 

 

Died: 1843  Norfolk Island

 

Researchers

Name: Lyn Fiddick or Dot Morgan 21 Glenugie St Maroubra NSW 2035 or John Fletcher or Trish Downes
Email Address: [email protected]     Web Page:

This is from the Irish rebels site

The net site has a lot of info

 

 

There is a Guy called Ian Findlay who has Probably more info on him

Ian Finlay
(email: [email protected])

 

Ian added a Message that may elp others with this search

I had great success when using the NLI (National Library of Ireland, Dublin)
newspaper archives for this period. This may require a visit or to hire a
local individual, most papers are now on microfilm, I was lucky enough to
have handled original papers, just prior to the microfilm copy process.

I actually had my ancestors police interrogation responses recorded
verbatim, and later trial all in print, transported purely by association
with a criminal Feb 1816.

If you can identify Richard Norris' County of Origin, you could investigate
local county papers for that area, for the following regular articles
'Commissioners Intelligence'.
Many trials where conducted in larger centres such as Cork or Dublin, given
it's political then Dublin is more likely. In which case I can probably dig
out Dublin papers in circulation for the period 1800.

Regards

 

He lists some newspapers that may hold info on his Trial

I noticed the NLI have a downloadable PDF file detailing all Micrfolm copies
for sale for sale for 70 euro, or it looks like you can requiest a new scan
of existing hard copy newespapers for 150 euro. (Who said Familiy history
research was cheap)

Warning: With these collections do not expect every day to be on the reels,
they have not gotevery issue themselves, so don't get your hopes up just
yet.

I have copied the Dunblin related Microfilm (as detailed April 2008)

The list below uses the following format:

---------------------
* Title
* Years on Reel
* Published location
* No. of Reels
---------------------

Carrick's Daily Advertiser <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Useful for
Convict Trials and Commisoners Intelligence
Oct 1812 - 1813; Feb. 1814 - 1831
Dublin
39

Constitution, or, Anti-Union Evening Post
1799/1800<<<<<
Dublin
1
Dublin Chronicle
1815 - 1817 (incomplete)
Dublin
1
Dublin Chronicle (Hunter's)
1770 - 1771
Dublin
1
Dublin Chronicle (Sleater / Byrne)
May 1787 - 1788; 1789 - Dec. 1793
Dublin
8
Dublin Correspondent/
Evening Packet
1823 - 27; 1829
Dublin
6
Dublin Evening Express
Jan - Apr. 1824
Dublin
0.5
Dublin Evening Journal
Feb. - July 1778
Dublin
0.5
Dublin Evening Mail
1823, 1829, 1830, 1832, 1834, 1836, 1837, 1839, 1881 - 1884; 1886 - 1893
Dublin
32
Dublin Evening Packet
May 1788 - June 1789
Dublin
1
Dublin Evening Post
July 1778 - 1805; 1811 - 1814; 1816; 1824; 1859
Dublin
36.5
Dublin Journal (T.T. Faulkner)
1783 - 1786
Dublin
4
Dublin Morning Post
1784 - 1785
Dublin
1
Dublin Penny Journal
June 1832 - June 1836
Dublin
2
Dublin Weekly Messenger
1808 - 1812
Dublin
2
Dublin Weekly Register
1818 - 44 (v. incomplete)
Dublin
1
Dublin Gazette
1780
Dublin
1
Dublin Weekly News
Evening Herald
1806-07; 1809-Sept. 1810; June 1811-Dec. 1812;
1813-June 1814
Dublin
6
Evening Echo (Dublin)
Dec. 1892 - March 1894
Dublin
3
Evening Freeman
Aug. 1831 - 1836
Dublin
5
Farmers' Gazette
Nov. 1842 - 1849; 1863
Dublin
8
Freeman's Journal
1763 - 1859
Dublin
150
General Advertiser for Dublin etc.
1841-46; July - Dec. 1914; Jan. - Mar. 1924
Dublin
4
General Newsletter
1771
Dublin
0.5
Hibernia
1937 - Oct. 1980
*
Dublin
21
Hibernian Journal, or, Chronicle of Liberty
1771 - 1782; 1784; 1786 - 1806; 1809 - 1811; 1820 - 1821
Dublin
35
Hibernian Morning Post
1775 - 1776 (incomplete)
?
1
Hibernian Telegraph; or Morning Star
19 Feb. 1798 - 13 Dec. 1800; 17 Nov. 1809 - 9 July 1810. (incomplete)
?
3
Irish Farmers' Journal & Weekly Intelligencer
Sept. 1812 - Dec. 1814
Dublin
1
Irish Times (even. ed.)
1822 - 23 (v. incomplete)
Dublin
0.5
Morning Post
1788 - 1789 (incomplete); 1790 - 95
Dublin
7
Saunders's Newsletter
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Useful for Convict Trials and Commisoners
Intelligence
1767 (odd), 1796; 1812; 1816; 1831; 1833-34;1838;
1840-42; 1845; 1851-52; Sept.-Dec.1863
Dublin
2
Sentinel & Herald Evening Post
June 1814 - 1815
Dublin
1
Universal Advertiser
1753 - 1760 (incomplete)
Dublin
7
Volunteer Evening Post
1787
Dublin
1
Weekly Freeman's Journal
1818; 1830; 1834 - 37; 1899 - 1912
Dublin
1812

 

Dublin Heritage Do not have any Information on him

There are Loads of Norris family from Dublin That could be linked
 Data Searched: Baptism Register
Date Of Birth Date of Baptism Surname Firstname Parish
17-01-1825 17-01-1825 Norris Anne Rathfarnham R.c
  04-09-1754 Norris Cecilia St Andrews
  18-07-1748 Norris Elizabath St Andrews
16-01-1854 16-01-1854 Norris Elizabeth St Andrews
18-07-1748 18-07-1748 Norris Elizabeth St Andrews
  18-07-1748 Norris Elizabetha St Andrews
  17-02-1752 Norris Franciscus St Andrews
06-05-1869 13-08-1891 Norris Gulielmus Josep Lucan R.c.
21-11-1851 21-11-1851 Norris James St Andrews
28-11-1849 28-11-1849 Norris John St Andrews
  18-07-1748 Norris Judith St Andrews
18-07-1748 18-07-1748 Norris Judith St Andrews
  18-07-1748 Norris Judith St Andrews
13-07-1887 07-08-1887 Norris Laurence Royal Hibernian
15-04-1825 01-05-1825 Norris Margaret Jane St Peters
Date Of Birth Date of Baptism Surname Firstname Parish
15-04-1825 01-05-1825 Norris Margret Jane St Peters
  16-09-1753 Norris Maria St Andrews
  21-03-1768 Norris Maria Anna St Andrews
10-07-1813 15-07-1813 Norris Martha Chapelizod
  27-05-1787 Norris Patt Rathfarnham R.c
27-05-1787 27-05-1787 Norris Patt Rathfarnham R.c
19-02-1885 10-03-1885 Norris Robert John Royal Hibernian
  16-11-1755 Norris Robertus St Andrews
13-05-1750 13-05-1750 Norris Thomas St Andrews
07-03-1856 07-03-1856 Norris Thomas St Andrews
  13-05-1750 Norris Thomas St Andrews
28-07-1819 05-08-1819 Norris Thoms Edward St Peters
  21-12-1755 Norris Thos St Andrews
  29-06-1764 Norris Thos Carolus St Andrews
17-03-1837 01-05-1837 Norris William Lyndhurst St Peters

Unfortunately as you can see no Richard.

The Irish Family history Foundation Hold just two Records of a Richard Norris

Church Baptism Norrice Richard 1776 Co. Kilkenny ......<

2 matches for the search criteria: norris (plus variants) richard 1775-1783
Action Source Surname First Name Year County
 Church Marriage Norris Richard 1778 Co. Westmeath
 Church Marriage Norrice Richard 1782 Co. Kilkenny .......<

As you can see one Married  in 1782.

This does not Mean he was not Born in Dublin,Papers are held by the British Government at KEW on Irish Agitators.

These were lists Of  Irishmen who were Sent to Australia.For Treason against the State.

I contacted Kew about 6 months ago With reference to a Dempsey,Who was transported for the same reason.

 

This is where the info of Irish Agitators came from.

 

Myself  Marian and Kay will try and check further to see if there is any more info.

SO please check when you can.If we can add to this we will

 

Mike

 

 

 

From: <NOBR>pippy_nannie</NOBR>  (Original Message)

Sent: 22/09/2008 01:53

I would like to say thank you for the information you have sent to me about Richard Norris. That will keep me busy for a while Regards Lorraine Cole

From: <NOBR>mickym1951</NOBR>

Sent: 22/09/2008 07:12

Hi Lorraine im sorry its not more,there was a lack of Records on a lot of the Irish Agitators.Kew in london have all the info on these guys. My suggestion is to contact the Library in Australia,Where the trial records are. There was one site that suggested he was born in Cork.But without the proof we are looking at anywhere. If we can find any more we will definately add.   Mike

From: <NOBR>ableliz</NOBR>

Sent: 22/09/2008 07:24

Mike,  All the records I have had him born in Dublin   Liz

Hi Liz yes I thought that.The cork site cant be Right.Where they got that i Dont Know.

 

Mike

Hi Lorraine i have been in touch with the National Library in Dublin.They Dont hold Any Info On Richard.But these are two of there Suggestions.I have Checked Dublin Heritage his Name is not listed

 

Mike

 

hank you for your e-mail.

You could check for his baptism in parish records online at www.dublinheritage.ie If
you cannot find him via electronic records, you will probably need to look at
microfilmed or original parish records. Roman Catholic records are held in the
National Library of Ireland www.nli.ie Some Church of Ireland records are held in
the National Archives of Ireland www.nationalarchives.ie and some in the
Representative Church Body Library
http://www.ireland.anglican.org/index.php?do=about&id=42

You could also try looking at newspapers online. This website has the Freeman's
Journal http://www.irishnewsarchive.com/ while this site is for the Irish Times
www.irishtimes.com They are subscription websites.

Mike,   Some people just copy info posted by others without checking.  Someone else had posted that the ship left from Cork but all the official records here have Richard Norris being born in Dublin although the date varies by a couple of years.

Liz

Hi Liz yes i noticed in igi there were a Couple of Dates.

There were Two Registrations in the IGI for Richard Norris.Both in Tipperary.

I could well be Possible he is the 1887 one

 

I have Noticed on other Websites Info is often Copied without Facts.

 

Mike

Liz my Mistake 1787

 

Richard Norris			Pedigree
	Male

Event(s):
	Birth:
	Christening:	22 JUL 1787   Clonmel, Tipperary, Ireland
	Death:
	Burial:

Parents:
	Father:	Robert Norris	Family
	Mother:	Mrs Elizabeth Norris