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 Message 1 of 60 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKate  (Original Message)Sent: 12/13/2007 5:12 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknameusedummybill</NOBR>  in response to Message 1 Sent: 2007/12/13 05:01 PM

Hi Mike   Sorry about that,     My Great Grandfather Robert Ramsey Born in Dublin Ireland about 1843 ,  His occupation,  Master Marriner. Married to Fanny Gibson,  born in Cumberland. They had one Daughter Sophia, born Liverpool 1875.

Robert Ramsey died about 1917 , I can not find his death date , or where he died,  also can not find find him prior to the marriage, his parents, or any siblings.  hope you can help me

Thanks   Bill



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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 1/22/2008 4:41 PM
Just Finishing this off Emmas Name was Hullin

Marriage 1868 Liverpool
Vanstone John Henry Liverpool 8b 307
Hullin Emma Jane Liverpool 8b 307

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From: MSN NicknameusedummybillSent: 1/22/2008 11:46 PM
Hi Mike, no pun intended , but that is definitly the wrong tree for Sophia.
Sophia Ramsey, the daughter of Robert and Fanny Ramsey, was born in 1877 in Ireland. !! ( info i found on the 1881 england census and 1891census) . the Ramsey's, had only one child. This info was also passed down to me by my mothers sister, my aunt Frances, quite a few years ago .

Mike I have to quit now but will finish on next thread.
Bill

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From: MSN NicknameusedummybillSent: 1/23/2008 12:57 AM
Hi Mike, Bill Back , Sophia Ramsey married to Henry James Carefull , 2nd quarter 1893,West Derby , Liverpool ,Lanc's.

Henry and Sophia Carefull had 2 daughters, Frances , born 1895, and Elsie Robina born 1896 on the 23rd of May. I have a copy of Elsie's birth certificate as she is my mother. I also have a copy of Elsie's Marriage certificate to my father, July 20th 1919, which show's both grandfather's names and includes Henry James Carefull, Chief Steward Merchant Services,as his profession , and who was the husband of Sophia Carefull Nee Ramsey.

Mike I think i have enough proof there as to where Sophia Ramsey ended, as a matter of fact ,she lost her husband about 1919 and remarried to a mr Moran whom' im still trying to find out about. I know they were together in about 1943 as i went to visit her and she lived on Walnut st, Downtown Liverpool.

Mike Happy hunting, BILL

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 1/24/2008 6:24 PM
Hi Bill In the Irish Roots Cafe,Listed below They have info of a book on the Ramseys of Dublin

http://www.irishroots.com/research.php

RAMSEY The Families of Co. Dublin Irelan

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From: MSN NicknameusedummybillSent: 1/25/2008 5:00 PM
HI Mike, thanks , i need to digest it all before i can comment, will be back to you soon.

Bill

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 1/25/2008 5:36 PM
Hi Bill Sorry if i had Wrong Tree on Sophia,That is why i never Followed that I just wanted to be sure if correct or not.

Mike

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 1/27/2008 8:05 PM
thanks for your info re Moran, I know nothing about him yet, You finding the Marriage will help, Thanks again, Can you help me with my wifes parents and Grandparents ? My wifes Maiden name is Moore, her grandfather ,John Moore married Mary Ellen Kilroy All from Liverpool, her Mothers maiden name was Maria McGorry.

Look forward to our talking soon.

Cheers Bill

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From: MSN NicknameusedummybillSent: 2/25/2008 12:59 AM
Hi mike bill here , i have not forgoten you,
on 1891 england census ,, i found more info re; robert ramsey,,,,, but under ROBERT RUMSEY,

Other interesting finds re my wifes ancestors, one from Belfast the other from Killkala Ireland, I need to find the maiden name for Hannah from Killkala yet to get further on. Any sugestions .
Cheers Bill

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 2/25/2008 7:07 AM
Hi bill,We now have the Census Marian Has it.
Not sure yet how we can find Maiden Name Other than a Cert.That is the Problem With some submitters,They cant Read Docs.So that was a good find

Will have a chat with Marian to see if we can find anything

Mike

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From: MSN NicknameusedummybillSent: 3/18/2008 10:02 PM
Hi Mike,     Re My great grandfather !!   Robert Ramsey.
 
A couple of leads found.
1/   1871 census    robert ramsey age 28.
civil parish ,,,Vessels
county ,,,,lancashire
country,,,england
registration district,,,,lancaster.
 
the Original form  (when copied) is torn, the heading thats visible ,states,,,,,List Of Officers, Crew, and Others on Board of,,,,,
Then there are 3 names    James Stevenson.  John Skemming,  and Robert Ramsey.     
Canyou look this up and tell me what you think ?
 
Mike i found this lead on  I.G.I. Index v5.0
Not sure about,  it but worth taking a peek at.
 
Robert Ramsey,  male.
 
Birth:    1839,          Trow Lane, Larne, Antrim, Ireland.
 
Parents,   William Ramsey.  father.
                Jane                    Mother.
 
3/     Robert Ramsey.   male.
 
Christening:    02  FEB   1840     OF, Connor, Antrim,  Ireland.  
 
Parents.
Father    William Ramsey.
Mother,  Matilda   Millar.
 
Mike i hope this information will help with our desire to find out about the  Early life of   Captain Robert Ramsey.
 
I look forward to your reply,     BILL.

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 3/18/2008 10:25 PM
Hi Bill Will have a go for you
 
Mike

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 3/18/2008 10:36 PM
Hi Bill i Just checked out The two Roberts
The first one
 
Is the Listed Children
 
Parents,   William Ramsey.  father.
                Jane                    Mother.

1. Sarah Ramsey - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Death: 1849
 
 2. John Ramsey - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 1832 Trow Lane, Larne, Antrim, Ireland
 
 3. Isabel Ramsey - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 1835 Trow Lane, Larne, Antrim, Ireland
 
 4. James Ramsey - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 1837 Trow Lane, Larne, Antrim, Ireland
 
 5. Robert Ramsey - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 1839 Trow Lane, Larne, Antrim, Ireland
 
 6. Mary Jane Ramsey - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 1845 Trow Lane, Larne, Antrim, Ireland
 
 7. Sarah Ramsey - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 1849 Trow Lane, Larne, Antrim, Ireland
 
 8. William Ramsey - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 1841 Trow Lane, Larne, Antrim, Ireland
 
 
 
This Robert was only listed Family
Robert Ramsey Pedigree
  Male    
   
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Event(s):
 Birth: 
 Christening:  02 FEB 1840   Of, Connor, Antrim, Ireland
 
 Death: 
 Burial: 
   
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Parents:
  Father:  William Ramsey  Family
  Mother:  Matilda Millar
 

 

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 3/18/2008 10:56 PM
Bill while Checking Out Something i came Across this from Malta records
 
Robert RAMSEY, aged 20 years, born Edinburgh, Ordinary Seaman 2nd Class
HMS IRIS
 
The first British warship to be constructed from steel. Despatch Vessel, double screw, 3730 tons. Launched at Pembroke Dockyard 12th April 1877.
Malta Records
This Makes this Robert born 1857
 
Mike

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 3/19/2008 2:44 AM
Hi Bill
 
I checked out the 1871 census on Ancestry and found the record you mention.  As you say, the original is torn.  But from what it says it looks to me as though James Stevenson was the Master of the vessel, and that John Skemming and Robert Ramsey were Officers.
 
It would not allow me to view either the previous page or the next page.  However, we do have some of the other names of those on the ship (below).
 
Marian
 
Name: Robert Ramsey
Civil Parish: Vessels
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:
Registration district: Lancaster
Sub-registration district: Lancaster
ED, institution, or vessel: [James Stevenson]
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
John Bodgers 36
Francis Bray 42
John Doherty 35
Daniel Galaghie 30
Lewis McAuley 22
William McSevine 35
John Oliner 50
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John Skemming  
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