Bernard - Firstly, I found Henry and Emily in the 1891 census.  They have a son Henry age 2, and Ephraim Speight age 9 is listed as a brother.  We have to assume he is Emily's little brother.

 

Now here is Henry and Emily's marriage registration:

 

Marriages Dec 1886    
Speight  Emily     Sculcoates  9d 253   
Ward  Henry George     Sculcoates  9d 253

 

And young Henry's birth.

Births Jun 1889  

Ward  Henry Edwin    Sculcoates  9d 170

Here is Ephraim's birth:

 

Births Dec 1880  
SPEIGHT  Ephraim    Bradford, Y.  9b 150

 

In 1901 they have more children - Emma age 8, Mary E. age 7, William age 3 and Leonard age 1.  Here are the registrations:

 

Births Dec 1892   (>99%)
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 Ward  Emma Lilian     Sculcoates  9d 183

 

Births Mar 1894   (>99%)
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Ward  Mary Ellen M     Sculcoates  9d 165

 

Births Jun 1898   
WARD  William     Sculcoates  9d 216

 

 

Births Sep 1899   (>99%)
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Ward  Leonard John     Sculcoates  9d 197

 

 

Marian

Manager

 

 

 

Bernard - Here is Emily age 19 with her parents and siblings living in Manningham, Bradford.  I notice that Emily's father was called Edwin.  By the way, my great grandmother was also born in Manningham!

 

 Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
 Edwin SPEIGHT   Head   M   Male   45   Bradford, York, England   Iron Plainer    
 Mary SPEIGHT   Wife   M   Female   41   Thornton, York, England   Weaver (Under)    
 Emily SPEIGHT   Daughter   U   Female   19   Shipley, York, England   Mill Hand Drawer (Wstd)    
 Fred SPEIGHT   Son   U   Male   18   Shipley, York, England   Jobber (Art)    
 Thomas SPEIGHT   Son      Male   11   Bradford, York, England   Spinner (Art)    
 Drake SPEIGHT   Son      Male   7   Bradford, York, England   Scholar    
 John SPEIGHT   Son      Male   6   Bradford, York, England   Scholar    
 Eliza E. SPEIGHT   Daughter      Female   2   Bradford, York, England       
 Ephraim SPEIGHT   Son      Male   7 m   Bradford, York, England      

 

 

Marian

Manager 

Bernard - If you could e-mail me the marriage cert as mentioned in my first message, it would be very helpful.  Thank you.

 

Marian

Hi Bernard

 

You probably have a map of England, but if not, just letting you know that Sculcoates is part of Hull in Yorkshire today.  The full name is Kingston-upon-Hull.

 

Marian

Manager

Hi Bernard

 

Many thanks for sending the marriage cert.  I agree with you that it certainly looks like Henry's father was Edmund.  And I was pleased to note that he was a bachelor, because I had wondered if he might have been married before.  It seems not.  I also notice that he was a Blacksmith.  And that there were nine years between himself and Emily - at least that is what it says!  All these little clues can help. 

 

I will continue the search for Edmund and post any more findings on here for you.

 

Marian

 

 

Hello Bernard 

 

The closest I have been able to find is on the 1861 census where Edward and Maria Ward are living in Nassington, Northamptonshire.  Nassington is a small country village just outside Peterborough.  Edward is an Agricultural Labourer.  The children listed are Edward 15, Harriet 14, Thomas 11, George 10, William 8, Elizabeth 7, Fanny 6, Frederick 3 and Maria 7 months.  I am wondering if Henry George was known by his middle name.

 

Also living at the same address is another Ward family, most likely related.  They are John Ward who is a widower age 57 and his occupation is also Agricultural Labourer, and his children are Annie 21, Thomas 17 and Charles 15.

 

I think this must be Edward and Maria's marriage.  Oundle is in Peterborough.

 

 

Sharp  Maria     Oundle  15   651   
Ward  Edward     Oundle  15   651

 

Let me know what you feel, when you have had time to digest all this.

 

Marian

 

Thank you ..Yes I would like to find more about Edmund and his son Henry George Ward.I did know about the Speights .Its just "Those Two" seem to be in witness protection..

Ps I lost the group page and only got the emails from hotmail..but I got it now..Bye Bernard