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Debates : Are we too 'cliquey' ?
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From: MSN NicknameBluebell_Wood  (Original Message)Sent: 10/24/2007 11:17 AM
Maybe people don't join in because most if us seem to know each other so well, they feel like outsiders and don't join in. What do you think?  I mean, how many of us welcome people here?  Just a thought.
 
 

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From: MSN NicknametravelerL1111Sent: 12/9/2007 10:49 AM
I really like too add my two cents to this one. The majority of this group seems to be very cliquish, the same people are the initial responders to almost every question. From what I've read it seems that other people try to tone their responses so that they do not offend one of the permanent/original members. My personal point of view is I joined this group, my opinion is as valuable as everyone else's

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From: MSN NicknametwotiredtwocareSent: 12/11/2007 2:37 AM
Traveler, Mitrata - please post.....
 
I know I post the most in the group and its due in part out of fear of the group fading away.
 
I have been asking for people to post, to start new threads, come up with new ideas and to join in a chat.  The last 2 chats that we had, 6 joined for 1 of them, 5 for the other.   There are 288 members in this group.  I don't know what else to do except shut up.  If thats what it takes, please let me know & I will.
 
Jillanne

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From: MSN NicknametravelerL1111Sent: 12/11/2007 8:40 AM

Jillanne

I think it's great that you are able to come up with such interesting topics. Please do not feel offended, it was never my intent to criticize your selection of topics. Since joining this board I have tried reading almost all comments posted it's nice to see that there are many people who were willing to make a statement and express their opinion. I believe that's what this sort of format is all about people, having the chance to express their own opinion.

Maybe what people need to remember is that everyone's entitled to their own opinion and that there is no right or wrong opinion. In a freethinking world everyone has the chance to say what's on their mind. That's how we get great discussions going people making a statement and others either agreeing or disagreeing. At least that way we are communicating.


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From: MSN NicknametwotiredtwocareSent: 12/11/2007 10:13 PM
I wasn't offended. 
 

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From: MSN Nicknamebewildered810Sent: 12/16/2007 10:51 AM
I quite like these strands.
 
Nevertheless, there is a peril to them.
 
When we converse, face to face, we watch and listen for cues that amount to much more than just the words.
 
It is not possible to be as sensitive to what someone is feeling when we are using a two dimensional media. Sometimes therefore, people will be affronted by a statement, or a reply.
 
Also, because of the very nature of the distance between us, we can say things in a way that is more blunt than we would employ face to face.
 
When we say something which comes very much from the heart, and that view is detracted by another person, that can feel like more than just the opinion is being rejected or contested.
 
Peril aside, I think that these strands are interesting.
 
In my own case, on those rare occasions that I have felt upset or rejected by a response to that which I have offered, I tend to move on, mull over the response, and come back later, when my reply will be more reasoned.
 
As to the fact that some people can be very good and productive members, and still not take part in the debates, to me that is fine.
 
If I go to a supermarket, I chose what lines I avail myself of. I don't buy everything that is on offer.
 
I remember an old, apocryphal story about an American businessman in the 1920's.
 
He believed that it was then possible to make a cheap, affordable and reliable aircraft from available materials. So, he went to a local hardware store, and bought most of the new modern lightweight materials 'off the shelf'.
 
However, he just could not get the damn thing to fly. It was just too heavy.
 
So he called in an engineer to look his 'flivver' over.
 
The guy did so, and suggested......
 
'first of all, you don't need the bathroom, and take out the sink.'
 
To me the moral reiterates that basic premise.
 
Just 'cos it's there, it isn't neccesary for you to use it.
 
Like I say I enjoy lots of this group.  

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From: MSN NicknamemargomaySent: 2/9/2008 12:20 AM
I'm brand new here but have been in a few msn groups for a few years. No idea if this is a cliquey group or not. Hard not to be when when you get to know each other. I'm still getting a feel for this group, for the people. I try not to be offensive when responding to anything but I also expect to be able to voice my opinion. I'm liking this debate board, sure I'll find a lot of other things I like.

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From: MSN NicknamenotblondejustredSent: 2/9/2008 1:32 PM
I just joined this group in December, I just got right in there and started posting, I don't think the group was cliquey at all, I was never made feel unwelcome and always got responses to my posts. I think you get out what you put in, in these groups, so hopefully all you new folk will get posting and join the fun.....Girlie needs new victims after all....lmao

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From: MSN NicknameMysticĊurrySent: 2/11/2008 11:28 PM
Well Maggie I don't want to be a victim. Will you protect me?
 
Rob.

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From: MSN NicknameunkeptminxSent: 3/4/2008 12:24 AM
I am in a group that people in the past have been called "clique" I think its a bit unfare to say the least, just because people know each other and like to have a banter its not clique its just friends being friends...people join and say hello some dont I think its up to the individual to be known, and try and fit in like I am trying to do now in yours..if I dont like it I have the right to leave...but when I joined this group that I am in I wrote to the managers saying that I found that no one noticed me and asked if there was something I did wrong..that was enough for the managers to stand up and listen and made me feel part of and others that have followed since..now I am an assisant manager of the group and make sure that newbies are felt welcome and listened to..well I try to I am just human after all

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From: MSN Nicknamedeskjet701Sent: 3/12/2008 5:34 PM
actually, i find it a bit hard to chat.
The problem i've experienced (just my opinion) is that it's just text, rather ethan actually talking face 2 face and you cant see the reactions /demeanour of people. they reply and I've thought they were funning so wrote something back and upset them more! now i'm very careful wot i type. I've gone over wot i've typed in the past and realised wot i typed could be construed as offensive, and have offended people.
I'm not 100% innocent though as I have replied to things in a nasty manor as i was a pratt which i regret.. Too late to apologise as they are now not on the net.
i personally sometimes forget that there is an actual person at the other end and i'm not just typing stuff in reply to a box on my PC monitor.
Well.. i am yes but it is a person on the other end.. and regret wot i've done in the past.
 
P.S if anyone here was offended by a mr_pirate in another life about 3 years ago
I mr_pirate apologise.
 
well that's my contribution
 

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