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From: MSN NicknameAngelineRose  (Original Message)Sent: 8/18/2004 7:33 PM
I'm putting this here cos maybe when i read over it ..i will be able to see some sense?
I have a best mate who basicly befriended me when i 1st went back to the hospital to work........she made alot of effort to become a friend and we seemed to have alot in common with work and how we felt about things in the world in general. She has 2 kids the same as me but she was just out of a relationship with the father of the kids. She was so supportive when i had a run of deaths in my family sending kind texts.
We spent alot of time together.......i only had Lauren to start with.......we went out to pubs together and really had some good times.
She suffered with depression and took an overdose about one and a half years ago......i sat with her all night and into the next day in A+E.
I have tried to support her as much as i can.......lent her money when she has been short......had her round with the kids for tea......been round in an evening to keep her company.....(which did put hubby's nose out of joint!)....she would never let me help out by having the kids though.....saying she could manage on her own.
She has in turn been supportive to me......she has helped out looking after the kids when hubby had lessons on and i needed to sleep for work ......brought takeout round when i have been working a long stretch of nights to save me cooking.......she has given me loads of support through my post-natal depression.......she was the one who changed ethans nappy when i just couldn't even be bothered!
She knew about my affair with dave......and has often said that if i wasn't happy with chris to leave.
After me seeing dave for 1 year.......she was drunk one night and rand his other half and nearly told her that dave and i were seeing each other.....it was after that , that dave and i took a break from seeing each other.
Then a year last april we all saw each other out at a gig......and without me knowing clare went and told dave i still loved him........she really encouraged us to get together again.
Being wary of the time before i didn't tell her how often i saw him.
Now since it's all come out she is being totally different.......she is getting upset at me moving 5 mins down the road........saying that me andher and our kids won't get to see each other as much....despite me reassuring her differently.
She has also recently admitted a drink problem to me......5-16 cans of lager a day! It's when she has had a load to drink that she really starts on me......but during this time of me splitting with hubby she has even taken his side on some points.
I just don't feel like she is acting like a friend to me any more.
She doesn't seem happy for me........just making comments like i have landed on my feet yet again!
last week she yet again treatened my relationship with dave by saying that she would tell him about other relationships i have had........thing is he knows!.
I just feel so saddened by it all........now she can't get at me as much she is using the kids......saying ethan is turning into a spoilt brat and that i'm too hard on lauren........you know like she may as well say i'm a crap mum!
She has had a go at me saying that one of her boyfriends was only going out with her to try and get to me........oh and now apparently her daughter has said she wants me as her mum.......I have no control over what other people say to her!
I know she has very little if any self respect right now......she thinks she is no good.....despite me telling her her good points. I have tried to get her to get help with counselling but she refuses.
I have cared alot for this person for 4 years and now just when i could do with her support she seems to be making things harder for me. It feels like every oportunity she is putting me down or making me feel bad for my choices.
Is this really a best friend? 


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From: MSN NicknameNićSent: 8/18/2004 7:57 PM
reading that my first instinct is that she is a very insecure lady and is feeling jealous of your new relationship with Dave however irrational this is. Its hard though to deal with I  cant really advise anything as dont know what is the best to do
 
Nic xxxxxxx

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From: MSN NicknamestarlightmummySent: 8/18/2004 11:05 PM
I agree with Nic on this Ang. I'm not any help, sorry  She certainly does seem jealous of the relationships you have with others, she sounds as though she has problems that she has to sort out, you know that already. A best friend in my eyes is there for you no matter what, through thick and thin, it doesn't seem like that to me at the moment.  Hope she can get it sorted, keep ya chin up, try not to let it get you down, you've had enough to cope with lately, take care
Julie x x

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From: MSN NicknamePoll_DollSent: 8/18/2004 11:11 PM
If this girl is a depressive and an alcoholic like she has told you she will be insecure as both make you that way and mixed makes it a hundred times worse for the person doing the drinking
Love to you
Poll
xoxox

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(2 recommendations so far) Message 5 of 11 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameConvictedDaydreamer11Sent: 8/19/2004 1:33 PM
Ang your friend needs a hug and a lot of support, don't hate me for saying this, but from what you've said, It jumped of the page at me.. your too close
to see, but you did post this in the hope that you or one of us could
 
At the moment it seems she can't help herself and therefore can't support you, so your both at loggerheads  She's ill Ang... and it gotta hurt her when her daughter told her she preffered if you were her mum  It's not
your fault babe but I'm afraid instead of shooting the messenger she's
taking it out on you.
 
With alcohol added to the depression its a lethal mix and deep down I
bet she does'nt like herself very much at the moment  and thats creating a vicious circle, you've had good times in the past  and there is as many definations of friendship as grains of sand. it's not all plain sailing and happy times, there's bad ones too, if you can find a way through this, difficult for you at the moment because she's being spiteful... but you can have a very strong friendship at the end of it. It's for you to decide if its worth it or not.
 
Day  

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From: MSN Nickname©jen©Sent: 8/19/2004 2:25 PM
I cant add to whats been said Ang,but I do hope that you two manage to sort things out and become close again.
 
Maybe she does feel that your friendship is threatend(sp?) by your relationship with Dave.I dont know but it does sound like she has a lot of problems she needs to sort out herself.
 
As for her daughter saying she would prefer you to be her mum.
I would have prefered someone else to be my mum when I was growing up,............difference is I never had the guts to say so!!lol
This doesnt mean she doesnt love her,she is just hitting out cos obviously her mums problems are getting to her.
 ((((hugs))))

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From: MSN NicknameAngelineRoseSent: 8/19/2004 5:46 PM
Thank you so much for reading this and giving opinions.
Day.......I do believe you are right.........and this morning i got a text from her saying.......ok i have been a tit....maybe i just need some time on my own to sort my head out.
To which i replied........."i will always be a friend to you but right now i can't cope with feeling like i make you feel worse about yourself. you have alot going for you if you really want to see it. 2 great kids and ur well thought of by loads of people. ur generous and thoughtful. ur clever and good at your job. u have just had some rough shite an need to find a way of coping and not blaming yourself for it all x "
 
Maybe we do need a bit of space from each other just at this moment in time.......will see how it goes.

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From: MSN NicknameConvictedDaydreamer11Sent: 8/19/2004 8:31 PM
Did you click the recommend button Ang? caus it were'nt me
you know I nearly did'nt post that message  but glad you could see what I meant, I wanted to say more but it would have turned into an essay  a little time appart is what's needed but do keep in touch with her ((Hugs)) to your friend and you  

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From: MSN NicknameAngelineRoseSent: 8/20/2004 8:00 AM
No i didn't click it.....it was there yesterday when i logged on

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From: MSN NicknamemummycoolSent: 8/20/2004 2:49 PM
Just seen this Ang sorry.
I have to say I totally agree with Day.
She obviously cant support herself let alone anyone else at the moment. I'm so sorry shes got this drink problem, and thats probably the reason her daughter said what she said. I think if anyone can understand that you can.
I hope you can both work through this together hun, and be there for each other at the end of it.
I wish your friend luck in getting the help she needs, but as we all know in that situation, shes going to probably have to hit rock bottom before she can pull herself back up.

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From: MSN NicknameAngelineRoseSent: 8/20/2004 7:49 PM
Thanks for looking Mc........i must say though it's not the support bit that bothered me.......it was the making life more difficult for me that got me.....trying to threaten my new relationship even though she can see i'm the happiest i've been in years.....and just generally putting me down.

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