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Debate & Discuss : DOTW:Requested C-sections
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From: MSN Nicknameßratz  (Original Message)Sent: 6/2/2004 2:52 PM
Should women be allowed to request c-sections just because?  For no medical reasons but because they want it born around thier schedule?  Or because they dont' want to go thorugh the pain of labour?  Or so they won't miss the cut off for the school year?


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From: MSN NicknameJanë©Sent: 6/2/2004 4:25 PM
Simple answer to this one....NO!
I don't agree with requested c-sections at all.
Apart from anything, its an operation and any operation can have complication....why elect to have an op that isn't needed?
If you or the baby are in some sort of trouble or danger, then yes, but not because you don't like the idea of giving birth.
*Jane steps down from her soapbox and walks away muttereing*  LOL

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From: MSN NicknamePoll_DollSent: 6/2/2004 4:49 PM
 This is wot I wrote on the earlier post
Natural is always best C-section is fine for people who cant deliver naturally  or if there is a medical reason ie danger to mum or baby but not for those who think they are too posh to push its not good for baby or mother and a waste of resources which could be used elsewhere in the medical profession
I had 2 babies naturally no stitches with either JJ 1st baby was a dry labour too and with peter 2nd baby he came without drugs and I was induced I'd still do the same again if I could have more babies
xx

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From: MSN NicknameßratzSent: 6/2/2004 5:35 PM
Now, I disagree.why shouldn't a woman have a way that is convenient for her?  These days you may have to plan around available child care (especially single mothers), You husband's work schedule or hey, for working mothers, sending your child off to school 1 year early is HUGE for family finances.
 
If you had a husband going off with the military for 2 months, would you think it inappropriate for the woman to want her partner to see the baby before he goes off?
 
The risk of c-section is actually not much larger than natural birth, and actually LESS risky for the child. 
 
The "beauty" of natural birth well, for a lot of us ISN'T beautiful.  I say, if that is what will fit your life, go for it.  Just remember, you can't reverse that decision once made.  And I know, after rory was born by c section I actually felt a sense of loss, and very saddened.  That is why I had a hard time deciding to go c-section for the other twins.  Although, the ppoint became moot.
 
Anyway, Just my 2 cents in.
 
Devil's advocate
Bratz

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From: MSN NicknameghaensSent: 6/2/2004 8:47 PM
I see your point about a father going off and not seeing the child but by and large I do not agree with elective sections. Babies aren't meant to fit in around your schedule, you are supposed to fit around theirs! Giving birth is the most natural thing in the world and speaking from a personal point of view, a life changing experience. Fitting a baby around schedules, holidays, school years etc seems rather too calculating in my book.

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From: MSN NicknameEeliemaye1Sent: 6/4/2004 5:20 PM
hmm i can see your point bratz but over here we have the nhs it costs a lot more for a c-section than a natural birth so i think that if a woman wants to have a c-section for other than medical reasons then they should pay for it as the nhs is already stretched as it is
 
although i had an elective ceasarian it was because the baby was breech and small and also cord was wrapped round his neck so i was advised although their was a risk to me by having a cection it was safer for the baby not to go through a breech birth. as he could of ended up being distressed or even not making it so although on my notes it would say an elective ceasarian it was on health grounds and i belive this should be the only reason that you have a ceasarian section
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameßratzSent: 6/4/2004 5:24 PM
Ah, eelie, there ios an excellent point.  We too have health care provided by the government.  And I do think that it shoud not put more stress on an over burdened health care system, and they should have to pay...provided it is not for any medical reason.

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From: MSN NicknameRopeyladybird212Sent: 6/6/2004 9:13 PM
No i do not think we should have the option to have a c-section.  I have had 3 kids and nothing was ever mentioned about them.  I presume you just ask your consultant not that the thought even entered my mind.  My friend had twins by c-section 13 months ago and then had another baby 2 weeks ago and had a natural birth , she  wasn't even offered the choice even though it was only 13 months since she had one.  Ladybird.

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From: MSN NicknamemummycoolSent: 6/7/2004 1:29 PM
Hmm personally no I dont think it should be a matter of choice. It is a major op after all, and is a drain on services, and to have one just for the sake of conveniance or vanity. I do see the point about the services people tho as all dads should get to see their babys before they are sent away. I think with the state of the nhs these days if someone is really set on having one (for whatever reason) they should pay for it.
My mum had all of us by c-section, me cos she'd been in labour for 72 hours and I was getting distressed, Jay cos she was a breech, and Steven cos she'd already had 2 and they didnt want to risk her scar tissue tearing. She was gutted when she learned she couldnt have him naturally, as he was up the right way etc.
 

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From: MSN NicknameConvictedDaydreamer11Sent: 6/8/2004 10:28 AM
I'm afraid I would have to agree with Bratz, why not!!!! if you can
afford it. Natural childbirth is extremley painful  and why do
we have to martyrs?  I do understand for some its a life changing
event, but for me I was so glad it was over, I could have kissed the floor
 
I had all mine naturally, But I believe in the womans right to choose
after all men don't have to go through labour, horses for courses
wether you come out the 'front door' or the 'sun roof' it really does'nt matter
 
The end..

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From: MSN NicknameLouLouBell1077Sent: 6/8/2004 6:09 PM
I think that, unless it's for a legitimate medical reason (like risk to mother and/or baby) you shouldn't be able to choose, unless you are willing to pay for it!
I had Emily by C-section, because my midwife decised she was at risk if I had a natural birth - she was in an arkward position, and breech, so I went along with the C-section - it says on my notes that it was elective!
It was a truly horrible experience - the surgeon cut something he shouldn't have done, and I had to have a large blood transfusion afterwards....I really thought I was dying, but I felt I had an easy time of it after listening to the screams from the labour ward!
If you are willing to pay a private hospital for a c-section because you really don't want to go through a natural birth, then fair enough, but to have a c-section paid for by our already overstretched health service, when the money could be better spent (on saving a life or something) because you don't want a natural birth (not bedacuse there is any risk to mother or baby) isn't right!
Loads of people each year spend money in private hospitals spend large sums of money on non-lifesaving operations, like cosmetic surgery, so why should a c-section be any dofferent........it's all a matter of choice isn't it?

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From: MSN NicknameAngelineRoseSent: 6/8/2004 6:10 PM
Ok hun ....you wondered on my opinion.....as a nurse.......well as a nurse we have to be none judgemental and so i would have to go with what ever the patient wanted.
However........from what i have learnt it is better for the baby to come out through the birth canal.....it helps kick start breathing and a few other things i can't remember right now
I think in the uk we only give the option for a c- sect if it is medically recomended.......in saying that the incidence of c-sections has boomed in recent years.
Personally i would go with the if it's wanted....... but not really needed idea........pay for it.
Mums who have a section have to stay in for at least 5 days because of post-op care and that costs....not counting the theatre staff and drs.

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