|   From: Serene Sent: 11/18/2001 9:33 PM  Thank you for showing interest in this thread on Islam, Czech... I am  happy that my perception of Islam is more palatable to you than what  you've seen/heard so far...  Now.. To Intense's questions: Conversion and Missionary work in Islam: Unlike, say, Judaism, Islam is a world religion, meaning that anyone  who *chooses* to do so can become Muslim. There are not introductory  rituals or stuff: if one repeats that I believe that there is no god other  than God, and Muhammad-- his prophet and messenger, one can  declare himself/herself as Muslim. No other person can contradict that  individual for not being so...  Islam allows its followers to explain it to other people, if they ask them  questions, or are curious to know. But, they can never, ever force  anyone to convert forcefully. If they do so, they are violating probably  one of the most crucial laws of Islam, that emphasizes ("your religion is  yours and mine religion is mine"). Meaning, everyone has to respect  each other's beliefs, even if they personally don't believe or follow  them...   Missionary work is not a crucial part of Islam. Although it is hoped that  everyone will become 'Muslims' one day, believers are not expected to  knock on doors to proselytize it, and so forth.. The idea is, if it is asked,  believers would explain, but otherwise, they would not *actively* try to  convert a person from one faith to another. That is a thing that that  person has to arrive himself/herself. In Koran, it is said that, if God  wanted, it would have created all beings as Muslims-- of a single  religion, but that denies the free agency of humans.   Btw, the free will of humans also make them higher in hierarchy than  angels-- angels are 'good' and believe and praise God, simply because  they can't act any other way. But humans should decide whether they  'want' to be 'good' and 'moral' or 'evil' or whatever... They have to  weigh the pros and cons in their heads-- a tough process on its own.  Hence, a really good/moral human being is considered as even better  than angels!  Afterlife-- who gets to burn in the cauldron??  Aaahh... that's the 'jackpot' question, eh?! lol   Technically speaking, all who believe in God can expect to enter heaven  one day, it is said. And no, if you are living in the jungles of Borneo and  haven't even seen a car in your life, obviously, you are not expected to  go to hell -- how can you, if you weren't aware of what's going on that  was beyond your perception? It is believed that these people will be  judged within their own conception of religion, universe and God.  Or take poor little babies or children who die so very early in life-- do  they go to 'hell' because they were not 'Muslims'? Nope-- they are  regarded as innocents, and they are not expected to understand or obey  the rules-- they probably just become angels in the sky.. Ditto for the  mentally disabled individuals, or those whose psyche crumbles apart  under the pressures of this world...  Those who live in the modern world-- what will happen to them? My  best friend here, for instance, who is a Christian-- will she go to hell? Or  a Buddhist?  God does say that he will punish 'unbelievers' but I have a feeling that  this description of 'unbeliever' goes pretty beyond any petty perceptions  of 'my religion beats your religion' attitude.. As I said earlier, Muslims  or not, I can't imagine those monsters who did the recent attacks going  to the heaven.. On the other hand, what about, I don't know, Louis  Pasteur, whose vaccination and tons of other discoveries/inventions  saved millions of human lives? Is he condemned to 'hell' just because he  is "Christian"? Please!... The Book that I believe in, I think, is far more  subtle than making such ham-fisted judgments. And, I believe that is  also why it seems better to leave such judgments to God, rather than  ourselves, or other beings... I personally believe that God's mercy and  forgiveness is infinite, and that's one of the reasons why that being is  God... When I read my Book, I am not terrified, or just senselessly run  into ecstasy-- but rather I tend to be awed by what it reveals me-- each  and every time, something different.. As I grow, I feel that it reveals me  a different facade of itself...  Pork-- sanitation-- prohibition:  What you say, Intense, about pork and the poor sanitation conditions of  the time makes much sense. I agree with you that probably eating pork  today is far less dangerous than back in those old days...  I myself don't eat pork-- as most Muslims (even those who'd drink,  ironically, would avoid pork for some reason) do. For me, it need not  have any 'rational' reason-- because religion need not be 'rational' at all  times for me. It is how I feel... I've continued practicing Islam not  because I was born in a Muslim family. But because Islam, to me, means  a lot more than the set of practices that I am expected to follow.. It also  means my spiritual ties with my family...   Years ago, when my maternal grandmother was still alive, and (when  Serene was still a little child! :) ) I used to go near her as she prayed,  and while she read the Koran.. I remember myself imitating her  postures-- putting my forehead on the floor as she did, to rise and bend  and sit as she did. At the end, "praying" with the insides of the palms of  my hands raised and turned toward my chest (I must have looked  hilarious with my dead serious attitude all the while!! lol) .. To a little  girl-- me-- at the time, these gestures did not only mean trying to reach a  higher Being that I was still somewhat unclear about. It also meant  becoming one with my dear old grandmother, whom I loved so very  much.. It gave peace to my heart, and took my childhood fears (and you  know that children's fears can be far more terrible than those of adults)  away from me for a while. That feeling of peace always remained with  me, and I guess that is why I never wanted to leave my religion for some  other one. Sure, other beliefs might have provided me as much spiritual  ecstasy as Islam-- considering their complexity and so forth-- but I guess  they would not have been able to fill the space that is such a private part  of me that has remained ever since.. Islam, to me, is like your favorite  faded, old pair of jeans that feel so comfortable that you can't give up,  no matter what...  Same thing with circumcision-- yes, Muslim boys are required to  undergo it when they are still young (although not necessarily at the  same time that is prescribed in the Jewish faith). I'm sure it has certain  good health reasons behind it. But I guess I would have been inclined  my children-- if I ever had one-- to go through it, regardless of being  scientific or not, because it's one of those symbols that makes you feel a  part of the 'community' (just like the initiation ceremonies among  natives in different parts of the world).   Yeah, I do get sentimental when it gets to spirituality.. I guess I'll never  be 'rational' in the way it is usually described. Oh well.. who cares-- I'm  still having *fun* !!  Blessings, Seren     |