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From: MSN NicknameJamieDH4  in response to Message 6Sent: 12/23/2007 5:21 AM
Bruce,

If there is hash browns fried in a vegetable oil how could you say that it was the carbs in it and not the vegetable oil in it? Carbohydrates are undeniably the primary and preferred source of fuel for the body's mucles and brain. The brain does not like to use fat or its metabolites for fuel.

I do not agree that carbohydrates cause health problems other then the gastrointestinal problems that complex carbohydrates like beans and whole grain breads can cause. But lets say that they can, in theory, its effects will pale in comparison to those of oxidise cholesterol and PUFA metabolites. Everytime I read a study talking about a gene "causing" this disease or that disease I go to my research on PUFA metabolites. It is true that many genes can "cause" disease, but only under certain circumstances. Arachdonic Acid and its metabolites (PGE2, etc) all cause "gene expression" and cause these negative genes to be expressed.

So while carbohydrates might raise the blood sugar and cause spikes in insulin levels, it is the damage caused by PUFAs that causes the actual problem. Its similar to how statin drugs reduce the risk of heart disease. By inhibiting cholesterol production they reduce the amount of cholesterol that can be oxidised, this therefore lowers the risk of heart disease. What many people fail to realise though is that oxidation of PUFAs and cholesterol is the real problem and that avoidance of these two things will reduce their risk of disease much easier and much cheaper then any drugs.

We say that cooked meat is a problem, because it is a fact. It is not THE only problem, but it is one of them. Cooking meat causes the cholesterol in it to oxidise which is nearly as bad as the oxidation of unsaturated fatty acids. I disagree with HSWC when he says that boiling meat is not an alternative to other cooking methods.


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     re: The latest evidence against cooked meat.   MSN Nicknamerensielk  12/26/2007 9:23 AM