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Blades/Wood/etc. : help on spiral blades
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From: MSN Nicknamedallaspup  (Original Message)Sent: 12/6/2007 8:03 AM
I have been scrolling for about 6 years now and I thought I knew what I was doing but after reading everything on here im just a beginer.  I was wondering if somone could give me some tips on spiral blades I just cant seem to get the hang of them.


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From: MSN Nicknamegashelv1Sent: 12/6/2007 10:25 AM
I use spirals alot for portraits and sillouttes. They are useful after you get the hang of them. Try to use the smallest that you can get by with until you learn to control the cut and turning your speed down a notch will help.
Also remember that the beauty of spiral blades is not having to rotate your work. You can relax and use both hands to guide your piece. The downside is the cut tends to be rougher. I usually clamp a waste piece on the back to cut down on burring and save the sand paper. But it is best to cut to the outside of the line until you build your confidence a little.

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From: MSN NicknameLyndalPeddlerSent: 12/6/2007 1:42 PM
If you live in the Dallas TX area.  Come to the Woodworkers show at the Arlington Convention Center this weekend.  I will be doing a demo on spiral blades at 4:00 P.M. on Friday and Saturday.  Check out www,DFWScrollers.com for more scrolling info.
Lyndal Hutcherson

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From: MSN Nicknametas2181Sent: 12/6/2007 2:41 PM
You may want to try some of the FD New Spiral blades. They are easier to control than most spiral blades. Either way it takes a little practice to get the hang of using them.
If you are wanting to cut straight lines, stick to the flat blades, but in doing portrait patterns the spirals work great.
 
Tom
 
 

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From: MSN Nicknamedennis_978Sent: 12/6/2007 2:52 PM
it takes a lot of practice to use these blades.  it took me a while to use them and i still have problems with them on some projects
 
dennis

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From: webriderSent: 1/10/2008 10:34 PM
I use spirals almost exclusively. The most important thing I think I can tell you is to take your time and while learning to slow down the speed of your blade. Don't try to force the blade thru the wood let the blade cut the wood and follow it. In the begining the cuts will take you longer but as you gain experiance the speed will increase and you will be able to increase the speed of the blade. If you are having to put too much force in the cut the blade is dulling and definately use the FD New Spiral blades they are the best and last the longest.

webrider

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From: MSN NicknamewhitejoyceSent: 1/11/2008 12:45 AM
Hello I just bought some spiral blades for my scroll saw. I am having a heck of a time putting in that blade, is there a trick to doing this? I have Delta Scoll saw. Than kyou in advance for your prompt response.

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From: MSN Nicknametas2181Sent: 1/11/2008 1:11 AM
I usually flatten the ends on the spiral blades using a small pliers. Just start at the end and pinch it flat about 1/8" at a time. You can also use a couple of pliers and grip near the teeth and at the end and give them a little twist to straighten the ends.
 
Tom

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From: MSN NicknameubgoofytooSent: 1/13/2008 3:41 PM
Hi, I just read your note & I have a Delta for sale because of that problem. Well, besides I wanted a new DeWalt too. The Delta has the clamp type blade holder & you can't set the clamp tight enough to hold the blade & still get the blade into the clamp ! The twist in the blade makes it too wide to insert. Of course, now they are making the spiral blades with flat ends. I would suggest ordering them instead of the regular ones. I will say that the Delta is a good saw though, & I just wanted a new one. If anyone is interested in a used Delta, I'm in Yuma, Az.  Thanks 

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From: MSN NicknamewhitejoyceSent: 1/13/2008 9:42 PM
Hello thank you for your info. I put mind up for sale as well. What  are they running for now in cost? I am asking
 $ 275.00 for mind is this to much you think? I have only use it once since I got last year. Thank you for your prompt response.

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From: "ubgoofytoo" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, January 13, 2008 8:41 am
To: "scroll saw portraits" <[email protected]>

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Hi, I just read your note & I have a Delta for sale because of that problem. Well, besides I wanted a new DeWalt too. The Delta has the clamp type blade holder & you can't set the clamp tight enough to hold the blade & still get the blade into the clamp ! The twist in the blade makes it too wide to insert. Of course, now they are making the spiral blades with flat ends. I would suggest ordering them instead of the regular ones. I will say that the Delta is a good saw though, & I just wanted a new one. If anyone is interested in a used Delta, I'm in Yuma, Az.  Thanks 

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From: MSN NicknameBillMcAllisterSent: 1/14/2008 8:26 PM
Been sitting back and reading the notes on spiral blades. Well let me tell you folks, I've been using them and them alone for quite some time now. Mike sent me a sampler of them maybe 5 or so years ago and I've used nothing since. Used  them on the old craftsman "jackhammer" that sears sold as a scroll saw, on delta's. dremel's and now a dewalt. I have always inserted the blades from the bottom of the cutout, so how ever the blade wants to go in the bottom holder is fine, then the top you just twist the blade and tighten until you get the flat just right. I've no problem with the twist at all. The spiral blade really comes in handy when doing patterns like the Lords Supper, instead of having to do sections and fit them together you do the whole thing in one piece. The spiral blade has made my dewalt 20in a 40in - doubles the  throat size. I have a few dozen flat blades for certain things, but the Flying Ddutchman spiral is the blade for me use it on all types and sizes of wood, little things like Christmas decorations, to how ever large I want.
OH by the way the spiral blade will do the work for you a lot faster than all the turning you have to do with a flat blade.
Yes you do have more fuzzies or burrs, but a propane torch will take care of them dudes in a skinny.
Ok enough from this old "wood butcher"
Gonna go make some saw dust in the "Scrap Wood Shop" !!!
Happy Scrolling folks.
Bill McAllister
Florence SC

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From: MSN NicknameshellclctrSent: 1/20/2008 11:47 PM
I am sure that I don't have as much experience as most of you, but I use spirals almost exclusively even with the problem of inserting them into the blade holders.  I secure the bottom of the blade first since it's the most difficult.  Then I feed it up through the workpiece.  Next, the top...and while this can be a bit tricky, with a bit of practice you'll soon get the hang of it.  The blade can be turned/twisted with the fingertips alone--you don't need pliers to turn it--just enough to align it so that it inserts into the top blade holder as if it were any other flat blade.  I know many of you will say it can't be done that way, but I have had plenty of practice with this method.  It does work.

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From: MSN NicknameWilliamYoung7Sent: 2/11/2008 6:19 AM
I use 95 % flat blades  and only use spirals when the wood is too big to spin within the 20.5 inch throat of my saw .
For ones that like spiral blades or ones that are thinking of  trying them, here is some information that will explain some of the mystery of spiral blades .
W.Y.
 

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