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| From:  _joellama_ (Original Message) | Sent: 1/16/2003 2:16 AM |
Hey everyone, just wondering if there are benefits of taking your saw to a show. I don't think there are any plugs available, so it would only be to show people what i use to make my products with. Thanks....... joellama |
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| | | From: Linster | Sent: 1/27/2003 2:37 AM |
How about one of those gas powered generators? I was at an outdoor craft show this past summer (as a patron) and there was a food vendor there using a gas powered generator. I think it was made by Honda. Any one have experience with one of these? What do they cost?, advantages-disadvantages, etc.... As I recall, it was very quiet running. Linster |
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For several hundred a person could get a generator that would get you shot at a show (very loud). For a few thousand, the honda is nice. If I were camping or at a show, I would hope the person next door had the honda. After three days with no power (an ice storm in Texas) I looked into several options. I was amazed that the experts said 18 deep cycle marine batteries could sustain a normal household for three days. Wonder how many inline deep cycle batteries would get a person through a show? Ray Price |
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the last show I went to as a spectator,I met a carver who was using a small honda.you could not even hear it! he rented it for the day,35.00,said it was well worth it as not all shows could he use it at would justify the cost.at that $, I think i would rent one,aas i would probaly more than make up the cost in increased traffic! stikman |
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I don't scroll very much, mostly
woodwork.
Thinking about taking kits of small things w/brad
nailer and putting them together at show.
Maybe do a little sanding, too.
Think this would help sales?
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| From: scroller40 |
the last show I went to as a spectator,I met a carver who
was using a small honda.you could not even hear it! he
rented it for the day,35.00,said it was well worth it as not all
shows could he use it at would justify the cost.at that $, I
think i would rent one,aas i would probaly more than make up the
cost in increased traffic!
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| | | From: Linster | Sent: 2/10/2003 3:46 AM |
Marvin, Anything you can do (with your craft that is) to draw attention would be beneficial. When people see you actually working on something, it reassure them that your products are handcrafted. Linster |
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I have been doing demonstrations at our local fair for 3 years now. There is always a large crowd. One year I made a simple treadle oporated scrollsaw .It was clamped into my WorkMate. It had no bearings just wooden dowels for pivots and the blade was sandwiched between two wooden toy wheels and a wing nut. The contraption lasted for the length of the fair and my legs got pretty strong cutting the wood. I want to build a better one for future use. If I can find get a picture of my old one I will post it. |
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| | | From: Linster | Sent: 3/3/2003 2:57 AM |
Was doing some research on power converters/batteries to make it possible to bring your scrollsaw to your shows. I came across this site and sent then an e-mail. I explained what I wanted to use it for and that I would have the saw and light plugged in along with a dremel tool (which will not be running the same time as the saw). They sent me a link to this model that they sell. Has the inverter and charger built right into the battery unit. To me, this price didn't sound too bad considering what you'd pay for a gas generator or buying an inverter, battery and charger. |
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| | | From: tutorss | Sent: 3/3/2003 5:00 AM |
The page states the power will supply a computer for only 3 hours... how long
will it run a scroll saw? (I guess you could have 2 batteries). It does sound
interesting.
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| | | From: Linster | Sent: 3/3/2003 7:34 PM |
Tutors,
When I emailed them I told them I wanted something that would run my saw for a minimum of 8 hours. The DeWalt is only 1.3 amps and I don't know off hand how many amps the florescent magnifying lamp takes which are the 2 itmes I said would be running most of the time. I don't know how many amps a computer draws. ANy computer wizards out there who know this??
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Linster, I would suggest not using the light, you will be able to use the saw longer. I think the idea of the saw at a show is to draw in customers not to do your best work. Have some simple, easy to cut patterns to show the customers how it is done. People have a short attention span, they like to watch but not for a long time. At a WW show I was at last year a gentleman had a large crowd around his booth, he was cutting small animals out of 3/4" pine and giving them to the kids, and we all know people like things especially when they are free. I'm not sure if it helped his sales but at least they weren't "just looking" as they walked by. Mike S. |
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I spoke with the electrician at the plant. His formula held that 2amps at 120 volts would be 240 watts. A 60 watt bulb would use one quarter the power of the 2 amp saw that was listed on the internet (specifications page.) I spoke with the fisherman that does tournaments several times a year. He said that he uses a trolling motor for about two and a half days without recharging the marine battery. The marine batteries I've seen on golf/marine pages list about 31 amp hours and up, on the specifications. If I were running a 2 amp saw (240 watt), 60 watt bulb, and a reasonable size radio, I should be able to do a two day show. most likely without recharging. There should be electricity where we stay the night to charge it while we are sleeping, if a person really wanted to. |
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I've been taking my scroll saw to craft shows for about 5 years. My saw draws 1 amp. This converts to 110 watts. I use a magnifier type lamp that uses 22 watts. Total 132 watts (call this continuous use wattage). I use a marine battery with 850 cold cranking amps. I've used the rig for 4 day shows and never ran out of power. For the inverter (converting the DC battery to AC) you need at least 2 times the continuious use wattage or in my case 264 watts. This is to be needed when the motor and lamp first starts up. I bought a 300 watt inverter for 39.50 at Harbor Freight and it works fine. I put a small 1/2 amp solar charger (also bought at Harbor Freight) and hooked it to the battery for a recharging function. Cost about 19.50 I think. Battery is always charged as it is charging all the time in any light, at and away from craft shows. A 1 amp trickle charger would do the same thing. I even put a small squrell cage blower under my rig and hooked it up for suction to remove any dust from concerned neighbors at a craft show. I live in So. Calif. if you are anywhere near you can come by and take a look. I've had two magazines want me to describe the rig and write an article on it but since I'm retired it seems like I have no time. Hope this helps. Jerry....Oldwoodwkr@aol. Pres. Orance County Scroll Saw Assoc. Local Chapter of Scroll Saw Association of the World. |
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Ok, I found a marine battery at Walmart 750 amps but I also found a car battery 650 cold crank amps, 12 volt. What is the difference in using a regular battery compared to using a car battery. Will it harm my scroll saw? This dumb schmuck would like to know, any halp is greatly appreciated.... Balding Scroller Mark |
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| The auto battery will not hold up to the "deep" cycling required for the usage intended as well as the marine battery. The auto battery is designed to be constantly recharged as in normal use for the auto. |
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