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| | From:  foxcomp4 (Original Message) | Sent: 10/13/2007 12:19 AM |
Hi I am so new to scrolling that I need to purchas a saw. Am considering a craftsman "16 any suggestions will help |
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If you are serious about it, I would suggest going to, at least, the Dewalt.
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Welcome to the scroll world. I started out with a dremell. Thought that it was really cool until my husband surprised me with the Dewalt. Night and day difference. I love my DeWalt. I really don't know about the craftsman and have not really heard anything on it. Have fun! Debbie |
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| | | From: tas2181 | Sent: 10/13/2007 2:46 PM |
While practically any saw you buy will cut wood, as you progress with more complicated projects you will be more inclined to move up in quality. A lot depends upon how serious you will be with this. I have seen a lot of cuttings that were done on the lower end saws that were done beautifully. For the most part those who buy a lower end saw either move up to a mid range or better saw or just go the other way and stop cutting. My advice is buy the best saw you can afford at this time so you get the most enjoyment possible while using the saw you purchase. I started on a Black and Decker and within 6 months moved to the Dewalt and never looked back. Just be sure that any saw you buy is capable of using pinless blades as the pinned blades are way to limiting on the type of patterns that are available. Tom |
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Well I guess it depends where you are located and what saws are available to you. Here in Australia Hegner and Delta are the only decent saws we have available, the rest arent worth touching. However WMS have come onto the market here now, offering a look-a-like saw to that of the Hegner .. at a fraction of the price. Its made in Taiwan as most are these days, I have been using it for a while now and there is nothing wrong with the quality of this saw. Brett |
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Buy a Dremel 1800, I tested this saw for them and very happy with it. I was elected to try it for them and was very honored. It comes with a built in sander as well. Or if you really want to spend money purchase a Hegner that is my next toy The Vermont Scroller you can buy the Dremel saw on AMAZON and get in about 5 days Good Luck
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| | | From: foxcomp4 |
Hi I am so new to scrolling that I need to purchas a saw. Am considering a craftsman "16 any suggestions will help | |
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Dennis Goodhue
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The truth is, nobody can give meaningful advice until you identify your budget... Like cars, houses, and even food and clothing, if you can only spend $xxx dollars, then you need to ask for advise in that range. Otherwise, you get answers that identify great products, but not ones you can seriously consider. Pinned blades require drilling large holes that prevent you from doing a lot of the scrollwork you see done on these boards. As someone else said, one important requirement is that the saw be capable of accepting pinless blades and I think that it should be one that does not require a tool to change blades... Other than that, there are a lot of features that make scroll saws easier to use... like lights, adjustable blowers, built-in vac attachment, foot control, speed control, magnifying lens, blade holders, raisable arm, deeper throat (for larger projects), 2-way right/left tilting, etc. Sometimes, spending more $$ means getting more features... but sometimes spending more $$ means getting a bare-bones saw that lets you cut larger projects (like the DeWalt 788 that some people love). That's my 2-cents. Spence (DeWalt 788 owner) |
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Thanks so much for your input to my question as to witch saw to purchas. You mentioned including what budget I had for the scrollsaw. sorry to say that a saw in the 150.00 range or less may be what I am looking for. Unless this amount would be a wast of my dollars. I am serous about doing projects some of witch would be small in natuer such as animal portrates. Your further suggestions would be really appreciated.
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| | | From: SawTooth |
The truth is, nobody can give meaningful advice until you identify your budget... Like cars, houses, and even food and clothing, if you can only spend $xxx dollars, then you need to ask for advise in that range. Otherwise, you get answers that identify great products, but not ones you can seriously consider. Pinned blades require drilling large holes that prevent you from doing a lot of the scrollwork you see done on these boards. As someone else said, one important requirement is that the saw be capable of accepting pinless blades and I think that it should be one that does not require a tool to change blades... Other than that, there are a lot of features that make scroll saws easier to use... like lights, adjustable blowers, built-in vac attachment, foot control, speed
control, magnifying lens, blade holders, raisable arm, deeper throat (for larger projects), 2-way right/left tilting, etc. Sometimes, spending more $$ means getting more features... but sometimes spending more $$ means getting a bare-bones saw that lets you cut larger projects (like the DeWalt 788 that some people love). That's my 2-cents. Spence (DeWalt 788 owner) | |
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I'm only guessing, BUT... I think many, many of us started with a saw in that price range... well, I know I did... and I used that Black&Decker, which was on sale at Menard's for ~$89 (~5yrs ago), for about 3 years... and I didn't replace it because it broke, either... it is still my back-up saw. I don't know all of your choices in that range... but do internet searches focusing on places that you'd trust for your purchase. The more features it has for the money, the fewer you'll need to add on your own... Almost none come with a foot pedal on/off switch, so consider buying one @ ~$25 (I use the kind that shuts off the saw when my foot is lifted off from the pedal.). A pedal isn't mandatory, but it makes cutting a little safer. A built-in lamp is nice, but it's possible to use any of many sorts of table, desk, or floor lamps. A blower is mandatory so you can see the pattern lines, but I strongly prefer the plastic gooseneck type because it is so easy to adjust and lets me direct the dust away from me. Variable speed is very desirable. A built-in vac port is very nice (but only if you connect a shop vac to it and run it while sawing... I bought an electric gizmo at Sears for $25 that automatically gives power to the vac whenever the scroll saw is on (ie. my foot is on the pedal.))( I used it with the Black&Decker because it has a vac port... I don't use it now cuz I have the no-frills DeWalt 788 that has no provision for dust evacuation.) And don't forget the very important feature regarding pinless blades with tool-less blade changing (ie. some sort of know or thumbscrew... not an allen wrench.) If you get to compare one saw to another at a store, favor the one with less vibration. Once you've found some to choose from, post another question to seek advice from people who have actually bought and used them... and don't pay attention to anyone who insists that you shouldn't get a scroll saw unless it is the expensive one they're using... many people have done some very nice cuttings on lower priced scroll saws. Lastly, find an online source for blades, because it seems to me that all the retail stores charge at least double if not triple the online prices. Spence |
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HI Group, I bought my scrollsaw in Amazon. I bought the Dremel Work Station for $175 and included freight It may of changed price this was last year. Dennis Goodhue The Vermont Scroller
The Vermont Scroller
Wooden Childrens Puzzles & Woodcrafts
Dennis Goodhue
1409 New Boston Road
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My sincere appreciation for you help and time involved composing both of your responses.. They were the most helpful of all the responses and are a big help.
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| | | From: SawTooth |
I'm only guessing, BUT... I think many, many of us started with a saw in that price range... well, I know I did... and I used that Black&Decker, which was on sale at Menard's for ~$89 (~5yrs ago), for about 3 years... and I didn't replace it because it broke, either... it is still my back-up saw.
I don't know all of your choices in that range... but do internet searches focusing on places that you'd trust for your purchase. The more features it has for the money, the fewer you'll need to add on your own... Almost none come with a foot pedal on/off switch, so consider buying one @ ~$25 (I use the kind that shuts off the saw when my foot is lifted off from the pedal.). A pedal isn't mandatory, but it makes cutting a little safer. A built-in lamp is nice, but it's possible to use any of many sorts of table, desk, or floor lamps. A blower is mandatory so you can see the pattern lines, but I strongly prefer the plastic gooseneck type because it is so easy to adjust and lets me direct the dust away from me. Variable speed is very desirable. A built-in vac port is very nice (but only if you connect a shop vac to it and
run it while sawing... I bought an electric gizmo at Sears for $25 that automatically gives power to the vac whenever the scroll saw is on (ie. my foot is on the pedal.))( I used it with the Black&Decker because it has a vac port... I don't use it now cuz I have the no-frills DeWalt 788 that has no provision for dust evacuation.) And don't forget the very important feature regarding pinless blades with tool-less blade changing (ie. some sort of know or thumbscrew... not an allen wrench.) If you get to compare one saw to another at a store, favor the one with less vibration. Once you've found some to choose from, post another question to seek advice from people who have actually bought and used them... and don't pay attention to anyone who insists that you shouldn't get a scroll saw unless it is the expensive one they're using... many people have done some very nice cuttings on lower priced scroll
saws. Lastly, find an online source for blades, because it seems to me that all the retail stores charge at least double if not triple the online prices. Spence | |
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hey dont know whether you have already gotten a saw yet but i have a dremel 16 inch i only used it about a month and i bought my dewalt if your interested email me |
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