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Quakers : too many eggs
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From: critter__crazy  (Original Message)Sent: 10/20/2003 4:44 AM
I have a 2 1/2 yr old quaker, Olivia.  She had belonged to my late boyfriends daughter....and had always been a one person bird....hers. The daughter moved out leaving Olivia there....not visiting or anything.  I took over her care and she eventually began to trust me...and  accepted me as her person.  If anyone else tries to touch her or me if she is out..she will bite them and then laugh out loud.  In july she started laying eggs for the first time...2 that month . ( she is a single bird...no boyfriend).  She doesn't seem to have much of a motherly instinct...she won't use a nest...she wants to sit on the egg for an hour or so (on the papers in bottom of her wrought iron cage) but then pecks a hole in it and destroys it.  She has continued to lay a couple eggs each month...but the frequency seems to be increasing.   Now it is a couple eggs every 3 wks..a day or so apart (she just laid her 3rd egg for the week tonight ( and destroyed it).  I don't really know what to do...she doesnt seem to have any visible adverse effects...no weight loss...feather loss...etc.  But I wonder how long she will keep up this production schedule.  It's funny...I have 5 female chickens who won't lay a single egg...and 1 small parrot who is putting them all to shame.   Any suggestions?


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From: MSN NicknameNanmeisterSent: 10/20/2003 5:19 AM
Make sure she is getting plenty of calcuim, IE scarambled eggs with the shells maybe 3x a week. I would consult a vet about the things you can try to get her to stop laying. We have a memeber (annie) that has a bird that goes through this. Perhaps she will have some good answers for you. Nan

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From: MSN Nicknameannieokie100Sent: 10/20/2003 5:36 AM
Boy, do I ever have an egglayer.  Maxi pionus scared me half to death with her binge that lasted about 9 months.  Her eggs became so soft they broke during the laying and stuck to her belly.
My vet had me move Maxi to a quiet room and slowly reduce her daytime hours--all the way down to only 5 and a half hours of daylight per day.  I had to cool the room down, too.  Sounds cruel and I felt like the meanie of all time but she was getting in trouble with all those eggs. Every day I walked in her room expecting to find her dead in the floor.  It was awful.
Do be sure her calcium intake is good.  I finally started using a high quality calcium powder because Maxi went on a strike against good foods.
And please don't use my method without your own vet approving it because you need support during this. 
Maxi skipped this year with the eggs, thank goodness.  Got a bit chirpy for a few days so I caged her every time she acted hormonal.  She invites my African grey to mate and he obliges if I don't watch them very carefully.  She is used to complete freedom in my birdroom for 12 hours a day.  The caging seemed to settle her back down--at least for now.  I will put her back in isolation if the caging doesn't continue to work.  I don't think she would live thru another 18 eggs in one season.
I avoided drugs for her but will resort to them if we have another episode like that last one.
I hope you will call your own avian vet for advice. S/he may know of another method to settle your bird down.
Annie

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From: MSN NicknameAngela_pitbull_loverSent: 2/1/2005 5:31 PM
I was just reading this post, and I realized that I have had my bird Nibbles for 5 years now and she has never laid eggs.  Could it be that he is a she and how could I tell?
 
~Angela

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From: birdladySent: 2/1/2005 9:28 PM
It is virtually impossible to visually determine the sex of a bird.  DNA testing is the only absolutely sure way that I'm aware of.  But, does it really matter what sex your bird is?

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From: MSN NicknameAngela_pitbull_loverSent: 2/2/2005 1:14 AM
I guess it doesn't really matter.  I'm not going to breed her/him or anything, I just wanted to know for the sake of knowing.  I thought Nibbles was a boy when I bought her, then we went to this bird show and some lady felt on him and told me he was a she.  I didn't know you could tell that just by feeling...I thought you had to do testing like you mentioned.  Hmm...
 
Is it most likely though that because Nibbles hasn't gone through an egg stage, that she is a he?
 
~Angela

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From: MSN Nicknameannieokie100Sent: 2/2/2005 1:41 AM
Angela, the only way to know for sure is with DNA testing. My Maxi lived with me for about 14 years before she laid her first eggs. I don't know what brought it on, because her living conditions didn't change in all that time. She was an adult when I got her in 1988, but I don't know how old.
Some people do claim to be able to feel the width of the pelvic bones on a bird and know if it is male or female but it surely isn't scientific and some people get a surprise.
It really doesn't matter except that when we know we have a female we can really push the high calcium foods to prevent soft shelled eggs when she does lay.
Annie

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From: MSN NicknameToolady2U2Sent: 2/2/2005 3:05 PM
Critter crazy........ I think you'll have to evaluate the amount of light the bird gets, take away any object she thinks could be a mate, nothing given to her that even resembles nesting materials and if you can, change her cage, the distraction of a new cage can help............... and mostly if she sees a human as a potential mate then less time spent, petting interaction,  with the human is best.
 
Angela I have a female U2 that is going on 8 and has never laid an egg either....... Or I have had her 8 years and she was a mature bird when she came to me.......Birds have a pre destined amount of eggs they lay so maybe ours will be late layers..
 
 

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