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General : Canidae new formula information from The Dog Food Project!
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From: MSN NicknameBarbaraJeansLeather  (Original Message)Sent: 7/8/2008 7:06 PM
http://www.dogfoodp roject.com/ index.php? page=main

Upcoming changes to Canidae formulations

Admin | June 30, 2008 3:56 pm

I wanted to give a heads up to dog owners feeding Canidae products about a few details that the makers of this product aren't telling you in their sales pitch for their changed formulas:

Under the new formulation, Canidae dry foods will no longer be gluten free, due to the addition of barley. If you know that your dog is gluten intolerant, start shopping around for a different food.

Even if your dog doesn't have problems with gluten (not all do, and many foods do contain high-gluten grains like barley), the change in formulation to include rice bran and peas may contribute to gas and digestive upset. Dogs who aren't particularly sensitive may not have any problems at all, others will get over it within a few days of transitioning, but again, for individuals with a delicate digestive system, expect that they may no longer tolerate the product.

Millet is generally well tolerated, but again, it doesn't work for every dog.

"Diversifying" ingredients may sound catchy, and Canidae certainly has made an effort to put a positive spin on it in their statement, but please remember that not all dogs do well on foods that include a wide variety of items.

Also note that "Herring Meal" will be replaced by generic "Ocean Fish Meal", meaning the company reserves the possibility to use different fish from batch to batch without having to change the ingredient list. This has not been addressed in their statement at all.

Whether these changes are indeed an improvement, as Canidae claims, is for you to decide - after observing how it affects your dog.

Canidae All Lifestages
Old Formula: http://canidae. com/dogs/ all_life_ stages/dry. html
New Formula: http://canidae. com/dogs/ all_life_ stages/dry2. html

Canidae Platinum
Old Formula: http://canidae. com/dogs/ platinum/ dry.html
New Formula: http://canidae. com/dogs/ platinum/ dry2.html

Canidae Chicken & Rice
(Note that after the change it's no longer going to be a true "Chicken and Rice" formula, but instead a "Chicken, Rice, Barley and Peas" formula)
Old Formula: http://canidae. com/dogs/ chicken-and- rice/dry. html
New Formula: http://canidae. com/dogs/ chicken-and- rice/dry2. html

Canidae Lamb & Rice
New Formula: http://canidae. com/dogs/ lamb-and- rice/dry. html
The old formula has already been overwritten. "Lamb and Rice" formula will now also be a misnomer - even though it's legal as far as labeling regulations go. This is the current ingredient list:

Lamb Meal, Brown Rice, Canola Oil (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols) , Flax Seed, Sun cured Alfalfa Meal, Sunflower Oil, Lamb, Lecithin, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Linoleic Acid, Rosemary Extract, Sage Extract, Dried Enterococcus Faecium Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Dried Aspergillus Oryzae Fermentation Extract, Dried Bacillus Subtilis Fermentation Extract, Inulin (from Chicory Root), Saccharomyces Cerevisiae Fermentation Solubles, L-Lysine, Taurine, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Mixed Tocopherols (source of Vitamin E), Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Cobalt Amino Acid Chelate, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Ascorbic Acid (source of Vitamin C), Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Riboflavin (source of Vitamin B2), Beta Carotene, Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Calcium Iodate, Folic Acid, D-Biotin, Organic Selenium, Dried Papaya, Dried Pineapple, Vitamin B12 Supplement

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From: MSN NicknameBarbaraJeansLeatherSent: 7/8/2008 7:15 PM
Canidae Outsourcing:From another group member:
Here is the email from Canidae confirming outsourcing to Diamond.
Diamond is the manufacturer whose products killed many dogs with
aflatoxin mold contamination of grain a few years ago. Despite them
suposedly having testing requirements in place at that time to
screen for toxic molds. They ingnored their own protocol!

From Canidae:
"Due to overwhelming customer support and increased demand on our
products, we have been faced with unique production capacity
challenges. Our growing customer support and demand has pushed for
increased capacity, therefore we have outsourced additional
production
from Diamond Pet Foods. Our customers demand and deserve no less than
the highest quality safe ingredients, as well as state of the art
consistent manufacturing. Outsourcing additional production from
Diamond comes not without first carefully instating and accepting
only
the strictest testing protocols, as well as mandating stringent
operating procedures to ensure the highest quality products possible
at every level of production. We are very happy with this
relationship
and the high quality formulations we are able to bring to you.

Expect Excellence!
Sincerely,
Team Canidae"