HI Dizzy,I think this May interest you,I found them in County Kildare

With Son Samuel He was Obviously named After Henrys Father.This will give us a New start On him

 

Mike

 

 

SAMUEL JAMES HOWITT Pedigree
  Male    
   

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Event(s):
 Birth:  22 JAN 1864   0946, Newbridge And Kildare, Kildare, Ireland
 
 Christening: 
 Death: 
 Burial: 
   

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Parents:
  Father:  HENRY HOWITT  Family
  Mother:  MARY ANNE LEE
 

Hi Dizzy,I have checked out Griffiths Valuations For Both Howitt and Lee.

Now this is in There But only one in Newtown Kildare,His Name is Thomas Lee

So in all possibility He is the father of Mary Anne

 

Lee

Thomas

Newtown

Kildare

Kildare

Hi ,Yes this is the one i found and i think the spelling was just not right.

thanks for your help

Deb.

HI,

Thanks for your help but Mary Anne Lee's father was James Lee.Mother margaret.

Deb

HI ,Yes this is the right one.I also have Son samuels death certificate but cant find Henrys..he was listed as deceased by then.He would have died between 1870 and 1875 and he was probably in the 84th regiment at the time.he was a drum Major..Does nayone know how i can find the childrens births.? I have looked for them Thomas Lee was born in Kent according to census but although there are many Thomas Lee around that time the ones i have had checked with GRO have had different parents.

thanks for your help

Deb

Hi Dizzy,I have Checked out a little on Henry.Im not sure he was a Captain But certainly in the Army.As he Traveled around the Garrison towns.I believe one son was born in Malta.One in Ireland.I have Checked The malta Records.But it does not show up there

This is a very usefull site for Them,I have seen other refences you have online,It would be better if you add on here.Then im sure one of the Managers will check it out for you.Can you let us have Details as to what you have.Then it will save time going over the same research

Many thanks

Mike

Hi Dizzy i forgot to mention,Have you tried finding his Military record,as it may give clues as to where or when he Died

 

Mike

This May give you an idea of where to check

Mike

84th Regiment of Foot refers to one of three infantry regiments that served in the British Empire:

• 84th Regiment of Foot (1759) (1759-1765), served entirely in India, no successors.
• 84th Regiment of Foot (Royal Highland Emigrants) (1775-1784), served in the American Revolution
• 84th (York and Lancaster) Regiment of Foot (1793-1881), served in the Napoleonic Wars and in India, incorporated into York and Lancaster Regiment.

Ok here is His recognition ,IT SAYS HE WAS A PRIVATE

Howitt

Henry

Private

84th Foot (York & Lancaster

Well Dizzy if he was in this Regiment in India,Well he did not have much luck,if you read this section

 

The Indian Mutiny

On return from India in 1819 the 84th absorbed its 2nd Battalion and in 1827 went to Jamaica where it helped quell slave riots. Having returned home in 1839 the 84th moved to Burma in 1842 and once more to India in 1845. At the outbreak of the Indian Mutiny on 10th May, 1857 the 84th became heavily involved. Of the sixty strong detachment at Cawnpore only one man survived and the main contingent was committed to the defence, relief and recapture of Lucknow. No less than six Victoria Crosses were awarded for these actions, four of which are now in the Rotherham collection. The 84th was saluted from the battery of Fort William upon leaving Calcutta in 1859 (one of only two regiments to be so honoured) after seventeen years in India. On return to England, the 84th received an address of welcome from the Mayor of Sheffield and the men were presented with penknives from the Cutlers' Company. The next twenty three years were relatively calm for the 84th, serving in Ireland, Canada and the Channel Islands.

Or Maybe He joined after,As they served in Ireland Canada Or Channel Islands

Mike

 

 

Hi Dizzy This will give you Clues as to where he would have been,The year's That you give for his death.It looks like Canada.If  you notice the years.In 1863 they were in Ireland.1865 in Malta.1867,Jamaica.Then 1870 Nova Scotia.So in Theory His Death was In Nova Scotia

 

Mike

 

1819	84th Regiment of Foot absorbed 2nd Battalion at Dover
	1819	Ireland
	1825	England
	1827	Jamaica
	1838	England
	1839	Ireland
	1842	Burma: Moulmein
	1845	India: Madras
	18uu	Burma: Rangoon
	1857.03	India
	1857	Sepoy rebellion
	1859.09	England
	1863	Ireland
	1865	Malta
	1867	Jamaica
	1870	Nova Scotia: Halifax
	1871	Ireland
	1873	Channel Islands
	1874	England
	1880	Ireland

Dizzy I think we can Rule out Nova Scotia As where he Died

as these were only Deaths

Howitt, Alfred John Melville Cove Rd, Halifax County 1941  
Howitt, James Sydney, Cape Breton County 1934  
Howitt, James Melville Cove, Halifax County 1944  
Howitt, June Tupper Halifax, Halifax County 1935 

I found One Birth

Howitt, Howard Milton Guysborough County 1871

HI Mike,Sorry i havent replied but your message dont go into my inbox and so i forget to check ...i used ti get lots of emails from this website and i did querie that and then they all stopped??

The info i have on Henry so far is this

Henry Howitt 1838 britsih subject born Jamacia .He married Mary Ann Lee ( spelt Howarth on the certificate) in 1861 at St Johns Manchester.His parents were Samuel and Mary Howitt.I have a birth certificate for a sister Sarah1847 .I have birth certificates for 4 children Margaret Ann 1868 Newcastle Jamacia,Samuel James 1864 Curragh camp Ireland,William Henry 1866 Garrison church Cottonera and John Thomas 1870 Halifax Nova Scotia.

I found him in one census in 1841 but i dont know what happened to him after that or where he died .I havent found his birth yet either.

He must have died between 1869 and 1875 when  Samuel died ( i have Samuels death certificate )

Yes he was aprivate in the 84th and also listed as drum major.I have emailed the 84th museum and they couldnt find him and i havent got his army records....they said unless he received a pension etc he wouldnt be there?? He must have died over seas somewhere.I was told m=by family that eh had died and Mary Ann had then come back to England..Can you please reply to [email protected]

Thanks

Deb

Hi Mike,Did you get this last email from me and also if the envelope is on "send replies to my inbox " is that right to have them come  into my inbox or is it the red dot ?

Thanks

Deb

Hi Deb,Im not sure if you saw this,Born 1870,Now This John Thomas died in Salford Manchester Lancashire [Now Greater Manchester]

 

Howitt  John Thomas  18  Salford  8d 81

Deaths Dec 1888