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From: MSN NicknameMobileboy136  (Original Message)Sent: 6/22/2008 7:04 PM
Hello
Can anyone help with this one, John Nile has been my brickwall for a couple of years now. He was born according to the 1841, 51 & 61 census in Plymouth 1804, he married in 1825 in Maker, Cornwall to Mary Ann Brooks, and lived there for a couple of years then ended up in Plymouth he died in 1869 and I have found his grave in Ford Park, Plymouth. I can find no record of his birth though. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Paul


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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 6/25/2008 9:56 PM
paul i noticed in 1861 census he was a tailor
 
now this one in 1841 was a tailors apprentice,but note St Cleer
 
1841 Census
5 Records found
   
           
Piece: HO107/153/4 Place: West -Cornwall Enumeration District: 10
Civil Parish: St. Cleer Ecclesiastical Parish: St. Cleer
Folio: 5 Page: 3
Address: Common Moor Village
 
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    Surname   First name(s)   Sex   Age   Occupation   Where Born   Remarks  
    LIBBY   John   M   30   Tailor    Cornwall       
    LIBBY   Maria   F   30       Cornwall       
    LIBBY   Elizabeth   F   3       Cornwall       
    LIBBY   Jane   F   1       Cornwall       
    NILE   John   M   17   Tailor Apprentice    Cornwall
 
 

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 Message 15 of 28 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameMobileboy136Sent: 6/26/2008 11:14 AM
Mike
 
If this was my John it would have made him 1 year old when he married ! Im probably missing where your coming from here
 
Thanks
 
Paul

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 Message 16 of 28 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 6/27/2008 12:01 AM
Paul i just wondered if there was a link with that john as Both were tailors.
 
Mike
 

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 Message 17 of 28 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameMobileboy136Sent: 6/27/2008 5:20 PM
Hi Mike
 
If my John was a tailor and the census suggests this, he would have done some sort of apprentiship, if this is correct would there be and who would hold such records
 
Regards
Paul

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 6/27/2008 6:01 PM
Hi Paul i think that depends on where.His father may have been a tailor also.And he learned the trade from him.
Or as you said he may have had an apprentiship,Learning from another tailor.
The thing is there May have been a shop involved,if so then it would have been registered in a directory,so worth checking.
 
mike

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 Message 19 of 28 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 6/28/2008 5:57 AM
Paul it also says he was a Journeyman,Not sure if this ment he travelled ,Delivering Suits etc.
 
Mike

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 6/28/2008 6:00 AM
paul i looked up the word Journeyman,And it said the Following
 
A journeyman is a tradesman or craftsman who has completed an apprenticeship

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 6/28/2008 6:05 AM
Paul in the last message click on apprenticeship,and follow what it says.
Might give you some ideas.I notice it says after he would have trained at a vocational School,While being payed by the employer.Im wondering if you may be able to find a School record of him
 
Mike

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 Message 22 of 28 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameMobileboy136Sent: 6/28/2008 10:25 AM
Hi Mike
Any idea where to start looking for that record
Thanks
Paul

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 Message 23 of 28 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 6/28/2008 11:21 AM
Paul i will look up some sections for you,And get back.
 
The directories mostly used .
Post office directories
kellys directory
There are a few more
Ref to the Apprenticeship,Will have to check it out
 
May also be worth contacting churches for a Baptism Cert in Plymouth.As he was born Pre registration period
 It Could take time as several churches.
The london Archives,Hold most parish records,but im not sure about plymouth.
IF he was registered  pre 1837,the record would be held in Bishops Transcripts.
School registers can often help to,its finding them also
Will get back as soon as i can find anything PAUL
 
Mike
 

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 Message 24 of 28 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 6/28/2008 11:26 AM
Paul this may explain what to do,Ref Apprenticeships
 
 
Mike

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 Message 25 of 28 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 6/28/2008 11:34 AM
This will explain Devon ones
 

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 6/28/2008 11:44 AM
Paul this may help
 

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 6/28/2008 12:11 PM
Paul when checking the 1841 via ancestry,Found this but i dont have ancestry
 
View Record

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Name: John Nile
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

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Gender Where born
Civil Parish Hundred
Registration district Sub registration district
Household Members
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 John Nile abt 1806 birthplace city, Devon

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 6/29/2008 6:01 AM
Paul this is from the 1841 census
 
Name: John Nile
Age: 35 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Male 
Where born: Devon, England
 
Civil Parish: Charles The Martyr 
Hundred: Roborough 
County/Island: Devon 
Country: England 
 
Street address:
Occupation: View Image
 
Registration district: Plymouth 
Sub registration district: Charles the Martyr 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Elizth Merrifield 5 Mo 
Ann Nile 13 
Charles Nile 5 
Henry Nile 1 
John Nile 35 
John Nile 10 
Mary Ann Nile 35 
Mary Jane Nile 8 
Wm Nile 15 
 
 
 

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