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From: JimJim  (Original Message)Sent: 10/22/2006 4:20 PM
  manics dance presents 'famous faces and names with bipolar disorder, (manic depression)

                    welcome, we hape you find what you need and more.. that you find you are able...
It's important to you that you know you are able and can do anything you set your heart to... and it's important to let the world know we are all capable, not crazy! ~ Bipolar Disorder ~  Bipolar Disorder affects 1 to 2 ½ percent of the population, even the famous. Stigma however, remain strong in the hearts and minds of the public - even in those of our own loved ones / family! Although the illness of manic depression reaches even the rich and famous, the movie stars, great singers, television personalities and artists - - much of the public still think mentally ill people are in 'categories' such as homeless, violent, like the people portrayed in movies such as "One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest" and, people who are basically weak, won't "pick themselves up by the boot straps" ...and the list goes on... much clouded with misconceptions/myth. 

Those who suffer from bipolar disorder, a non-curable disorder,
can feel lonely, judged, and different and feel as if there is no hope for them or their lives. Below are only a few names of famous 'known publicly' people that have had or have manic depressive disorder.  Through determination, self-confidence, esteem and pride, many people have achieved great things in their lives, reached their dreams, become well known, lived happier more productive lives... Just as we all can, you can... 


It is our hope that by providing some familiar names, faces... that those who suffer from this illness can feel a bit more "normal" a little more motivated for and in their futures and feel a bit more like life IS WORTH IT, is okay and can be lived to the fullest... 

There is hope... you are not damaged goods�?you are not alone... 

The staff at Manic's Dance wish to invite you to come to our forum / message board�?read a bit, add a comment, feeling, question …personal experience etc. Check out a chat room if you would like. Manic's Dance is always open to and for both manic depressive / bipolar "dancers" and to the loved ones at their sides�? 


Please read the following list carefully, you may be surprised. 
And, always remember hope, dreams, life & possibilities!

Success, being famous, it's not given to anyone really, it's earned... honest famous people, earn their fame, earn it too... you can, we all can

Famous People who have or who have Manic Depressive Disorder... 


Buzz Aldrin, astronaut 
Lionel Aldridge
Hans Christian Andersen, writer 
Ned Beatty, actor 
Robert Boorstin, writer, assistant to Pres. Clinton, 

       buzz aldrin, astronaunt

Arthur Benson, writer 
E F Benson, writer
William Blake (1757-1827), poet 
Ralph Blakelock, artist 
Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821), general 
Tadeusz Borowski 
Art Buchwald, writer, humorist 
Tim Burton, artist, movie director 
Robert Campeau, financier (Canada)
Drew Carey, actor
Jim Carrey, actor
Dick Cavett, writer, media personality 
C.E. Chaffin, writer, poet 
Agatha Christie, mystery writer 
Winston Churchill, 1874-1965- British Prm Mnstr
John Clare, poet 
Rosemary Clooney, singer 
Garnet Coleman, legislator (Texas) 
Francis Ford Coppola, director 
Patricia Cornwell, writer 

linda... an actress with multiple talents, several awards, fans all over the world
Richard Dadd 
John Daly, athlete (golf) 
John Davidson, poet 
Edward Dayes, artist 
Ray Davies, musician 
Emily Dickinson 
Kitty Dukakis, former First Lady of Massachusetts 
Patty Duke (Anna Duke Pearce), actor, writer 
Thomas Eagleton, lawyer, former U.S. Senator 
T S Eliot, poet 
Ralph Waldo Emerson, essayist 
Robert Evans, film producer 
Carrie Fisher, writer, actor 
Edward FitzGerald 
Robert Frost 
F Scott Fitzgerald, author
Larry Flynt, magazine publisher 
Connie Francis, actor, musician 
Sigmund Freud, physician
Cary Grant, actor 
Kaye Gibbons, writer 
Shecky Greene, comedian, actor 
Linda Hamilton, actor 
Kristin Hersh, musician 
Victor Hugo, poet 

alfred lord tennyson, poet, classic, achievement
Half a league, half a league, 
Half a league onward 
All in the valley of Death 
Rode the six hundred: 
Forward the Light Brigade! 
Charge for the guns' he said. 
Into the valley of Death 
Rode the six hundred." 
     - Alfred Lord Tennyson



Jack London, author
Robert Lowell, poet 
Marilyn Monroe, actress 
Mozart, composer 
Jay Marvin, radio personality, writer 
Cara Kahn, mtv's 'real world' 
Kevin McDonald, comedian, actor 
Kristy McNichol, actor 
Dimitri Mihalas, scientist 

bipolar disorder should never stop us from reaching our goals..and when we do, they mean more too! lucky, huh?
Kate Millett, writer, artist 
Spike Milligan, comic actor, writer 
John Mulheren, financier (U.S.) 
Robert Munsch, writer 
Napoleon, general 
Ilie Nastase, athlete (tennis), politician 
Isaac Newton, scientist 
Margo Orum, writer 
Nicola Pagett, actor 
J C Penney 
Plato, philosopher, according to Aristotle 
Edgar Allen Poe, author 
Jimmie Piersall, athlete, sports announcer 
Charley Pride, musician 
Mac Rebennack (Dr. John), musician 
Jeannie C. Riley, musician
Phil Graham, owner, Washington Post 
Graham Greene,  writer 
Peter Gregg, team owner and manager, race car driver 
Abbie Hoffman, writer, political activist 
Lynn Rivers, U.S. Congress 
Francesco Scavullo, artist, photographer 
Lori Schiller, writer, educator 
Frances Sherwood, writer 
Scott Simmie, writer, journalist 
Alonzo Spellman, athlete (football) 
Muffin Spencer-Devlin, athlete (pro golf) 
Gordon Sumner (Sting), musician, composer 
St Francis 
St John 
St Theresa 
Rod Steiger, film maker 
Robert Louis Stevenson 
Liz Taylor, actor 
J.M.W. Turner 
Mark Twain, author 

jim carry in the truman show
Alfred, Lord Tennyson, poet
Ted Turner, entrepreneur, media giant  
Jean-Claude Van Damme, athlete, actor 
Vincent van Gogh  
Mark Vonnegut, doctor, writer 
Sol Wachtler, judge, writer 
Tom Waits, musician, composer 
Walt Whitman, poet 
Tennessee Williams, author 
Brian Wilson, musician (Beach Boys), composer, arranger 
Jonathan Winters, comedian, actor, writer, artist 
Luther Wright, athlete (basketball)
Margot Kidder, actor 
Robert E Lee, soldier 
Bill Liechtenstein, producer (TV & radio) 
Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865), US President 
Daniel Johnston, musician 
Samuel Johnson, poet 
Burgess Meredith, 1908-1997, actor, director 
Kay Redfield Jamison, psychologist, writer 

 

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"Will You Make These Mistakes Dealing With Divorce And Bipolar Disorder?"

WARNING- Don't make the mistake that so
many couples make only to regret it years later

If you are considering divorcing someone who has bipolar disorder OR you have a loved one who has bipolar and is demanding a divorce but you don't want one, read on, this is going to be one of the most exciting pieces of information you've read.

Divorce is never easy, but it can be even worse if your spouse has bipolar disorder and is asking you for a divorce that you don't want. If you're in that situation, then I have good news that may save your marriage and prevent both of you from doing something you'll regret.

When I first started helping supporters and survivors of bipolar disorder, I began getting phone calls and emails about the subject of divorce. People would say, "My wife wants a divorce but she is sick, what should I do . . . ," "I don't want a divorce, I love her," or "My husband is in a really bad manic state and wants a divorce, normally he loves me but now he is not in his right mind . . . what should I do?"

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The bad thing was that I had no answers for these people. My mom, who has bipolar disorder, had never asked my dad for a divorce, so I couldn't use first-hand experience as a guide. That's why I decided to go out and find some answers by interviewing bipolar supporters and survivors who had gotten divorced.

I Interviewed A Ton Of People

Then, I literally struck gold in my gym. I met several people who had happily survived a divorce and went on with their lives. I also came in contact with a guy whose uncle is a well-respected divorce lawyer. That guy's uncle was a fountain of information for me. He taught me some incredible tips, tricks, and secrets to dealing with a divorce when it's complicated by bipolar disorder.

Of course, I didn't stop there. I also went out and interviewed other people who had gotten a divorce, people who had prevented a divorce from ending their marriage, and people who were experts in divorce proceedings.

I compiled all of this information into one Special Report that will answer all of your questions about divorce and bipolar disorder.

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There are many parts to this package. Let me go through each one by one.

First, there's an incredible report on how to prevent a divorce. You might have already made up your mind but let's face it, you have a ton invested in the marriage so first let's take a look at what you can do to prevent it.

  • The one thing you should NEVER do if your divorce goes through
     
  • A way to slow down a divorce to give your spouse time to get treatment
     
  • The secret to getting the court on your side
     
  • The sneaky way to make it seem like you are getting a divorce when you really aren't getting a divorce at all (in the case when your spouse wants one but you don't)
     
  • Ways to get your spouse's lawyer to make him/her get treatment
     
  • A little mistake so many people who are married to someone who has bipolar make that can cost them everything!
     
  • The #1 secret to really handling this situation
     
  • 3 things you can quickly and easily do to avoid a divorce even from a person who demands one
     
  • Places to find an expert divorce lawyer who can help PREVENT a divorce from a person with bipolar
     
  • The magic words you can say to stop a divorce
     
  • The 3 reasons you should absolutely get a divorce from your spouse, even when he/she is in an episode and you love them dearly
     
  • Things that you may hear during a divorce proceeding
     
  • How to protect yourself against false allegations that can smear your name (I know a lawyer whose wife is bipolar. She lied up and down about him during their divorce, and his named was almost ruined, so it can happen to you, too)

Now, there's an audio interview with Dr. J.P. Morgan who is a Certified Divorce Planner. He is an EXPERT at not only preventing a divorce in the first place, but alternatives to divorce that work for both parties and finally divorcing if you have to.

This interview is truly incredible. You will be amazed, after listening to it. Here's a sneak peak at what you'll discover:

  • What a Certified Divorce Planner is and how that compares to a lawyer (you're going to be amazed about this)
     
  • The little-known realities of divorce that most people NEVER think about even if they say "I've had it and I am getting a divorce)
     
  • What's mediation and how that can work for you.
     
  • What a divorce decree is and what you should fight for in it (it's so simple and it's not unreasonable but most people only fight about how much money they are going to get).
     
  • What you need to know about lawyers and divorce or else
     
  • How to lower your legal costs using surprisingly simple techniques
     
  • Sneaky ways Lawyers rip off EVERYONE involved in a divorce
     
  • A sneaky way to get UNLIMITED consultations on the financial aspects of your divorce from an expert
     
  • The true costs of divorce (98% of people never really know the true costs and then get into a divorce and it kills them financially for years to come)
     
  • Alternatives to divorce that work wonders when it comes to bipolar disorder
     
  • How to possibly fix the biggest things that are causing the divorce in the first place. If you have kids, a little mistake that can ruin your children's finances if you divorce from a spouse with bipolar disorder
     
  • What you should tell your lawyer when it comes to a spouse with bipolar disorder
     
  • The one service 99% of all people getting a divorce do NOT use and go broke
     
  • Why divorce lawyers are the number one target for mal practice lawsuits and what that means to you if you want to prevent or get a divorce (wait until you hear this, I was completely shocked.
     
  • The one thing you need to ask yourself if you have children and get a divorce. If you don't do this and you are dealing with bipolar disorder, you will be doomed for many years to come. It will get so bad that you will honestly feel like someone put a curse on you (I am 100% serious).

and much, MUCH more!

Then there's another audio tape, where I talk about divorce and what you need to know. Here's what you'll discover on this audio:

  • The little mistake people make when divorcing with children. I would say that 99% of all people who get a divorce from bipolar disorder NEVER ever consider this. If you don't, you are pretty much done before you start.
     
  • What kind of lawyer you should get if you chose one. Why people don't think of this, I will never know.
     
  • What you have to do BEFORE you start talking to anyone about divorce, whether it's a divorced planner or lawyer. This is an amazing technique if I do say so myself. Best of all, I'm going to do most of the work for you.
     
  • The #1 way that people have all kinds of problems with divorce if they get it
     
  • What's the root cause of divorce with most couples dealing with bipolar and how to fix it quickly and easily.
     
  • When you should instantly get a divorce from someone who has bipolar disorder
     
  • 21 ways to solve the biggest cause of a marriage breakup
     
  • The one sheet of paper that can turn around your marriage if you are looking to get a divorce
     
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and a whole lot more.

Finally, you're going to get information on marriage. Why? Well my special report on how to marry someone with bipolar can be very useful. You see, you need FULL information to decide on whether or not you should let a divorce go through whether your spouse wants one or you are going to pursue one yourself.

In this incredible Special Report, you'll discover:

  • Three steps to a great marriage with someone who is bipolar
     
  • The absolute worst thing you can do when you are marrying someone who is bipolar
     
  • The critical things you should know about someone you want to marry that has bipolar (you'll be totally shocked about this)
     
  • The facts about bipolar episodes and steps to quickly and easily manage them
     
  • 7 ways to manage serious bipolar episodes
     
  • The one thing that NOBODY ever wants to talk about when it comes to marrying someone who is bipolar. If you don't know this CRITICAL piece of information, it can be fatal to YOUR life.
     
  • The one thing that almost broke my dad financially (and no it was not my mom's spending sprees). Wait until you see this!
     
  • 4 ways to combat the biggest money problems with people who have bipolar
     
  • 5 issues you MUST discuss with a spouse or potential spouse who has a bipolar episode during family events and holidays
     
  • The last word on children and marriage
     
  • The shocking truth about whether or not you and your bipolar spouse should have children
     
  • The #1 fatal mistake that someone can make when married to someone who has bipolar disorder
  • A 7 letter word that can destroy you, your spouse and your marriage and what to do about it.
     
  • 4 things that you need to tell children about your bipolar spouse or else
     
  • A proven formula for having a solid long lasting marriage to someone who has bipolar
     
  • Little things that you will never think of to help you say "I can get married to someone who has bipolar" or "Oh no, I don't want to marry someone who has bipolar."

Plus much, MUCH more!

There is NO Where Else This Information Exists

You see, there are lots of people who are great with divorces-that is teaching you things to look out for. BUT, none of these people know bipolar disorder. Bipolar is a special mood disorder and if you don't understand it, it will roll right over you like a giant rock. I am sure if you are reading this, you already understand this.

This course however has information on dealing with divorce and bipolar which is truly a very difficult thing. And most importantly, if you have children, it covers that as well.

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When I showed this information to various people, they were amazed. They wished they had it. Bipolar and divorce is a tough deal-whether you want to prevent it or whether they are actually going to go through with it. Divorce is tough but when you add in bipolar it makes it 100 times more complicated.

I guarantee you will love this material.

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When I showed this information to people who have gotten a divorce OR prevented a divorce from someone with bipolar disorder felt as if it would have saved them thousands up to tens of thousands of dollars. If you don't believe that, just ask a friend who has gotten a divorce and then add bipolar to it and the figure multiplies substantially.

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"And my aim in my life is to make pictures and drawings, as many and as well as I can; then, at the end of my life, I hope to pass away, looking back with love and tender regret, and thinking, 'Oh, the pictures I might have made!'"

Vincent van Gogh

Letter 338 to Theo

19 November 1883

   
 
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From: JimJimSent: 12/13/2006 8:49 AM
A Hollywood Ending
Delta Burke & her husband talk about her winning battle against depression. 
By: Hara Estroff Marano
 

Work, success, fame? Everything she always wanted?couldn't save Delta Burke from disabling bouts of the blues. In fact they only intensified them. Beloved for her Emmy-award-winning role as Suzanne Sugarbaker on the long-running sitcom Designing Women, Delta eventually fought back. How she did it is a story of wit, grit, medication and insight in equal measure. Perhaps even more, it is an unusual story of love. Since 1989, Delta has been married to actor Gerald McRaney, well known as Major Dad. Their conversation goes right to the heart of the matter.

How can you tell when depression is entering the relationship? My husband, who died four years ago, was subject to depression. He'd get irritable and the level of arguing would go up, but it took a bit for me to realize what was going on.

GM: Well, he was very subtle about it. When you have to coax someone out from under the bed, where they've taken up a fetal position, it's a little more obvious. I would have been delighted with a good argument. I would not have been nearly as worried. But when the person gets beyond the point of arguing because what's the point of arguing, it's apparent that you're dealing with deep depression.

DB: In my extreme state, I would shut down completely. I did get under the bed once, which I can't believe I did.

GM: I'll never let you forget that one.

DB: Knowing how stupid it is that you're hiding under the bed and people are calling your name and looking for you and you're not answering and you're a grown woman, that was bad. I would disappear, because I just had to get out and be alone.

GM: I wouldn't know where she was for hours on end. Knowing that she was in this state, not necessarily thinking as clearly as she should and gone ?

DB: He'd be terrified.

GM: One night she had gone out and, finally, at two in the morning called and said that she needed help getting home. I said, ?Where are you?? ?I don't know.? She said she was at a Chevron station and narrowed it down to one section of Los Angeles County. I had to go and find this place. Of all nights, the gate leading to our property wouldn't work. So I'm trapped inside this big steel security gate. I broke it?with my hands. I was dumbfounded after the fact.

Nothing subtle about that.

GM: No, but there were lesser degrees of the insecurity, and they could be confusing. We were going down to New Orleans to a party and to meet my family. It was early enough in our relationship that it didn't compute yet that this was what was going on. By the time we're all done, every member of the family has gathered in New Orleans to meet Delta.

DB: Which was too much for me.

GM: We're walking to my parents' room, and you would think she was walking the last mile to the gas chamber. She was so nervous and wasn't pretty enough, wasn't this enough or that enough, and are they gonna like me and all those things which, I suppose, occur to people under normal circumstances. But with her it was deadly.

DB: I had decided I'm getting through this and then we're breaking up, because I can't shake this. I was just too overwhelmed.

Did it not occur to you that it might happen with anyone you would date?

DB: No, not in that mindset.

GM: My mother was more nervous than she was. My mother answered the door and the two of them just stood there for the longest time staring at each other open mouthed. My father finally came over, gently pushed my mother aside, hugged Delta and said, ?Come on in, honey, sit down; we've been looking forward to this.?

DB: I realized that his people were just like my people and everything's fine. But I would get truly overwhelmed by crowds?

GM: Just going out to a movie or to dinner was not going to happen. Because she would feel unworthy of those people.

Is this because you're a celebrity and there's all those people back there who have an image and a picture of you?

DB: I'm sure that has intensified it, because the more famous I got, the worse it got. But I had that back in Florida. Of course I was trying to be somebody pretty young and people were knowing who I was at 16 or 17. It began around then. I chose the wrong business, I guess, but it mattered a lot what they thought and if they approved.

That could set you up for a lifetime of reactivity with one bad notice.

DB: Exactly. You can't make them all happy. And I wanted to make them all happy. Any kind of criticism, I had trouble with. And yet careerwise, I would really fight, because I really believed I was a good actress.

GM: But it's almost like that's another whole level of things. Performing is one thing, being yourself is hard.

DB: That's right. At the worst points, while I was doing Designing Women, I would be in such bad condition that nobody thought I could actually go on camera. And yet the moment we would start filming, I was fine. My work even got better. That's when I first really noticed that there was very much a difference in being somebody else performing and being me.

Was this before you two had a relationship?

DB: No, we met at the end of the fist season. I was doing a lot of publicity.. Sometimes I would make an appearance and in the limo home start crying and not know why. Then all of a sudden attention was focused on me because the show was picked up and we were getting well known.

Then I met him. He people-oriented me, so everything intensified. Then I was very much out in the spotlight and started to gain weight, which got a lot of attention. That was my Achilles heel. All my life I was always starving myself and trying to stay thin. Then I would react to that and it was a vicious circle. It got to the point where I would just go home or to the set. I was scared and jumpy, looking around for the hidden paparazzi, because pictures would show up in the tabloids and you don't know how they got them. That gets you kind of paranoid. Once they got into the house. If I went to an appearance, it was sort of like hunting season. I would smile and try to be accommodating, but now I was more newsworthy, so they wouldn't stop.

Once, when he had just gotten me the ring, we went out. I'd worked really hard to look good and hoped someone would say something about the ring. It was a feeding frenzy. All that was written was how fat I was. Nothing nice. So I retreated more. I started refusing to make appearances, which was not viewed very well. A lot of pressure was applied to keep making the appearances, and I couldn't handle it.

You had unusual pressures on you constantly.

GM: They just intensified things that were already going on. The paparazzi, the fame and all that other stuff just made it more intense?and more public.

DB: That takes you to such a public place and you're not feeling worthy of that, and you keep trying to find a way to deal with it. Then I started having panic attacks, on set. My whole body would shake, and wailing sounds would come out of me. I look like I'm crazy and I'm not crazy. It was really embarrassing. I was so terrified I was going to have that in front of an audience.

How did you, Mac, deal with this?

GM: I'm looking at this gorgeous, intelligent, incredibly talented woman who is feeling unworthy. It doesn't make any sense! Finally, through educating myself I realized that's what clinical depression is all about. There is no explanation for it. It's just there.

DB: It took me ending up in a hospital, though, for either of us to learn any of that.

GM: And that began with the doctor saying, ?OK, here's what you're dealing with.? Which is why our whole thing is to get to people who are suffering, even the people like me who are suffering on the sidelines.

Hardly the sidelines.

GM: What I've gone through is nothing. The other day I told Delta, ? This was your fight. All I could do was let you know I had you back.? This was a battle she had to fight on her own, with her doctor. That's our message. Get to a doctor. Your husband can't fix it, your wife can't fix it, your father can't fix it. They can love you, but not fix it.

DB: And you can't just snap out of it. It's an ongoing process. You can't think, if I just love her more, if I demonstrate it, if she will just listen to reason?which is idiotic because people suffering this are incapable of listening to reason about themselves; to them, it's a foregone conclusion that they're not worthy. You have to have medical attention for it.


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