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RANT and RAVE : how can some men have familys
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From: MSN NicknameTheButterflyJanice  (Original Message)Sent: 6/27/2003 5:05 PM
I know anger isn't good in God's eye, or god for our Bipolar, but I'm very verry angery right now. I don't understand how some men can be with their family. How can they not take care of them, just take advantage and make excusses for what they do or not do! This isn't right, they don't deserve to have familys!!! I wish these men could just fall of the face of the earth!
The Butterfly~Janice


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From: MSN Nicknamefiveboots1Sent: 6/27/2003 9:35 PM
((((Jan))))
 
Please don't feel like anger is not good, it is an emotions God gave us.  As my therapist says, all emotions have a purpose, it is just HOW we express them.  Stuffing could cause more problems.
 
It sounds like you have a good reason to be angry, I don't blame you at all.  I know where you are comming from as I am/was in a similar situation.  Men like this don't deserve their families if they don't care enough to take care of them! 
 
Rant and Rave, and Rant some more, we are here for you!  I am here for you! 
 
Love you bunches!
(((hugs and love)))
~~fiveboots1~~
 
 
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameFrog764Sent: 6/28/2003 12:45 AM
(((((((( Jan )))))))) I am sorry that your up set know i can relate to how you feel, if there is anything i can please let me know ok, i am here for you.
                                 
                                             Huggs
                                              Froggy

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From: MSN NicknameTheButterflyJaniceSent: 6/28/2003 7:17 PM
Thank ya Boots and frog for ya words to me. As I said I know anger isn't good in God's eyes or good for me. I guess I'm angery at the problem, and the fact that my hads are tied, and there isn't anything I can do about it! I so much want to go to him and strangle hom, but I know that won't help either. I just realy don't understand why, or why they have a family if they aren't going to or want to take care of them. This is not love. He doesn't know what love is. So why Why Why!!! Why does she open her eyes and see what is and what isn't. I am trying so hard but the person hurt also hurts me. Thanks for leting me Rave about this, I guess i need it to try and get it out cause that's all I can do.
Love Ya!
The Butterfly~Janice

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From: MSN NicknameRain7s1Sent: 6/28/2003 8:37 PM

{{{{Jan}}}} I know you are hurt and angry. I agree with Boots. We need to express our emotions. It's not a bad thing. Rant and rave all you need to. I agree with you about these men. I feel exactly as you do about them. You know I am here for you anytime for anything. Please remember that. I am praying for you all. I love you, Rain.


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From: MSN Nickname-Mary-10Sent: 6/29/2003 4:00 PM
(((Jan))) From the bottom of my heart, I agree also with everything you have said, as well as what Boot, Frog & Rain have said.  You do have right to express anger! We all go through a process of emotional feelings I feel, when we are confronted with different situations. We would all love to take the pain from you right now, the same as you would want to do the same for us.
Yes, you do need to rant about this Jan! It's not fair when we have to watch things like this happen with our loved ones. I would be furious too!!!
You know I am here for you also ((Jan)).
Love,hugggs &Prayers ~ Mary

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From: MSN NicknameRascal69Sent: 6/30/2003 10:37 AM
janice, i don't think i'm wron about this. what is said about anger (as opposed to what is 
done out of anger - jesus whippin' things up in the temple) is that you should not let the sun go down on your anger.
 
god gets mad all over the place in the scripture. i'm pretty sure it's done to get a point across that the believers finally learn about seven generations later. it's kinda like god's five year plan done on california time. i think since god does get angy, there is not much room for saying thou shalt not get angyry. that seems to be gotten around by requirin' that it be resolved, at the very least before you go to sleep. if it is with another person, it will be optimal to confront and go through making things right from your side of whatever made you angry. then a walk through whatever process you use for reconcilliation can be employed. if it's a person that  you cannot do the same with before you go to sleep, at leasl have had
resolved in your heart and mind, and make good on working it out some way the following day.
 
from personal experience, the psychological benfit in itself is signicant. and when one adds a spiritual component it is equally important.
 
one last thing. the issue you bring up is a valid one, on whic much time is spent on in the new testament, and i feel the most ill-interpreted. it sems to me that a lot of "men" that abuse their families are really just "little 
boys" that never got over needed "mama" to take care of 'em and clean up the messes, of whatever kind. dig around paul's writings and you'll find lots of stuff on it.
 
i can say this with authority only because as i tell it, i tell part of the story of my life. every time i think of it i die a thousand deaths or so. i can live with myself so long as that shame blankets my soul or conscience or whatever it is. I can't begin to tell hou much it'd been some other way, but i can't.
 
There is some good news in though. i can dare to say long live the shame and the pain, because it makes me better father everytime i think it, and i don't take my children, nor my future ex for granted (no matter how much i grumble about her)
 
I see and have perpetrated  your pain, and now stand in shame. men can evolve. love ya. a.

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From: JimJimSent: 11/6/2003 3:09 AM
    
   
   
   
   

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