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| | | From: Reniece (Original Message) | Sent: 10/3/2004 3:16 AM |
The other day the salon owner told me that I cannot give out my own business cards anymore. She says that they don't reflect the shop. Even though I put LABELS on the back of the cards that shows the salon's name, address, phone number, etc. When she first interviewed me last month, she told me that she does not provide stylists with business cards until they've been employed for 6 months. Then she also said ".....However, you are free to provide your own cards..." --So that's what I did. Now, she's lying saying that she told me that only booth renters can provide their own cards! That's a LIE!! This is not the first time that she has twisted things. I am so tired of her telling me one thing, then turning around and saying another. Anyway, now I have to give out the salon's cards only- and there's no space to write my name on it. I want customers to remember my name after I do their hair - so they will come back. So now I have 500 cards that I can't even give out to customers at the salon. And another thing is....she seems to be expecting me NOT to give out my cards elsewhere either (hair shows, beauty supply stores,etc) . She only wants me to give out the salon's cards. That's not fair. She can't tell me not to promote myself when I'm not at the salon. I will still give out my cards to people (when I'm not in the salon) Does any of this sound fair to anyone? What do you guys think? I'm so irritated with her (the owner) right now.  Sorry for the long note. |
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Hello Reniece, I would like to give my thoughts on this subject. Personal business cards should be done by booth renters and independant contracters. When you work for a private salon or company, the business cards have to represent the salon. Companies especially, like to keep everything the stylists have the same. That means using their business cards. I'm as confused as you are that she said you have to use your own business cards for the first 6 months! If that is what she told you, then you did the right thing. However, I don't agree with the fact that you have to work there 6 months before they supply you with theirs! How are you supposed to promote yourself? The first few months are essential. If I were you, I would have a talk with her about that, and have that rule changed. What I do at work, is I write my hours on the back of their business cards. There is a space on the front for stylist's name, and the salon's phone number. Is it possible you could write down any information on the back of the card? Amy |
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| | | From: Reniece | Sent: 10/3/2004 4:26 PM |
Thanks for replying. Okay, I understand that the cards need to represent the salon. It's the fact that she TOLD me from the beginning that I can provide my own. And the fact that she's telling me she never said that is what's really making me mad. But I also modified the back of my card with a big label that lists the salon info. About the 6-months thing....she said that she won't provide me with my own cards until 6 months, however, she has general shop cards that I can give out. The cards are glossy and it's full of words (front and back) so I won't be able to write anything. There's just a little bit of space on the card to squeeze my name in.I will have to use a label to place my name on the card. --Brandi |
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that's crazy!  she doesn't want you to promote yourself? does she not want to make money? to me that is the main thing you want your staff to do is to promote themselves, when they do that they are also promoting the salon as well and that means more buisness for her. one thing you could do is jut write your name and hours on the back of the salon card. personal i would rethink working for that kind of owner. has she had her staff for awhile or is there a big turnover of stylist there? if there is a big turnover, it usually means there is a major problem with the owner or manager. |
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I think I get what you were saying now. The owner of the salon will make you personal business cards after you are employed 6 months right? Maybe the reason is to see if you are still there after that time, to see if it is worth the ivestment. The labels are a good idea, that way you could make room for your name. I agree with the fact that if you make money, the salon makes money, and would want you to promote yourself, and help to retain everyone's clientel. I don't think most salon owners or managers realize this, they are too caught up with ego and powerplays. Not realizing what is most important. There are plenty of salons you could to that have better policies than this place. personaly, I don't think I could put up with that for very long! |
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| | | From: Reniece | Sent: 10/4/2004 4:35 PM |
CorpusChristiLisa, Yeah, it seems like she doesn't want me to promote myself. It's crazy. I'm going to put my name and try to squeeze my hours onto the card for now. However, I've really been thinking about working somewhere else. I am the only hair stylist there right now. She's expanding her salon to be a full service salon. It used to be a braiding salon only. Then it's two other foreign girls that only braid hair - they've been working for her for about 1 year. She's currently trying to find more stylists. I don't think that she will be able to keep people with the way she acts. |
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| | | From: Reniece | Sent: 10/4/2004 4:39 PM |
Starliteny1, Yes, she says she will make the cards after six months - unfortunately she has changed and "forgotten" many things that she's promised, so I'm not counting on it. I may not even be there that long....I won't be able to deal with some of her policies and work happily. |
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In reply, i am a business owner and i would have to agree with some of what the owner said. First of all, u should have complied with the same type of business card with the shop's name and had ur name printed on the card. If u hand out cards with your own logos, it seems like u can use those cards no matter what shop u work in. So, maybe she mite be thinking of you moving on at a latter time. Business cards with names printed on them are expensive enough, especially if the person working for you leaves the shop a month after she starts. Also, u may want to check the laws and policies of working under the shop, u may be suied for such things. Also, make sure u get anything in writing as far as the rules and polices of that perticular business. That way u have something to reflect back upon when she promises things. Its kind of a no/win situation on ur part, since employees are easily replaced. Idon't want to come off sounding mean, but been in the business for 23 years and have taken a lot of bull from my employees. |
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| | | From: Reniece | Sent: 10/6/2004 12:11 AM |
scizzorchick, The thing is, I would've complied with whatever she told me concerning the business cards. But like I said before, she did not say anything specific about having my own cards. All she said was, "I will provide you cards after 6 months, but feel free to provide your own if you'd like to". My cards are simple. I have 3 photos of hairstyles that I've done, my name, email address, and phone number (with a label on the back displaying the salon info). She had already seen my cards before. She said they were fine. Anyhow, I understand what you're saying. She does not provide me with anything when she makes sudden changes. --But I document things she says though. But all she says is "I never said that..." I can't wait until I can open my own salon. |
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Scizzorchic is right about the policies being in writing. That is what big companies do, that way it is legaly safe for them to terminate if the rules weren't complied to, and for the employee to show the employer what she stated in writing with the employee's signature on it, in case the employer were to change her tune a little. It is so easy for private shops to do wrong, when there isn't a way to prove something. They should be checked up on reguraly to ensure they are complying with state legal rules. |
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Honey, I hate to say it but start looking for employment. This isn't going to be the first "mis-understanding" - she going to say a lot and forget that she said it if you allow her to get away with this one. Have a talk with her - but let me tell you I find it better to write letters than nobody will forget or misunderstand what has been said or decided on. I'm going through the exact same thing but with my landlord - write letters honey. I am almost positive that you are a good stylist and your customers love you or she wouldn't be stressing the small stuff. I noticed that when another stylist don't feel like she can produce good work like you they tend to try little road blockers. Instead of being professional and asking you how to do certain things so they can better themselves they lash out! Childish! But I don't think it would be wise to settle there and not try to find something a little more professional! |
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One thing you learn right away in this buisness is that the majority of owners do not run it like a buisness. The owner should have some place on "the salon buisness cards" for you to put your name. You should be allowed to market your self out side of the salon. That is the point of having buisness cards is to hand out to people inviting them to come see You at "your buisness" or place of buisness. It seems to me that she is purposely doing this so that you are unable to draw attention to your self. So that when the cleint comes in they will become the salon cleint which is not all wrong but there again she needed to be more specific in what her expectations were. If she were not going to provide you with "personal" buisness cards for six months then she needed to state what you were supposed to do in the mean time. I have booth rented for 10 years now and I've had salons that want their logo big as life and your name in the corner. Now I work where they do want you to promote your self first and the salon second. I have to agree with the others that it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to move on. Change is hard, we are creative people and hate it when others mess up what we think is the place to be. But you also learn that not all change is bad and that maybe you've learned something working for some one who says one thing and does another. |
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One lie leads to another lie and another lie leads to another lie and it don't stop. Do you have a black perm marker - the clients know where you are so they don't need the address, don't write across the number and write your name. If she want to be ignorant do what you got to do, your doing as she ask - using her cards. You make sure you keep a log of every event every lie twisted tale whatever keep a log, She can't tell you what to do off the clock honey - are you looking for another salon to work in yet? You must do hair better than her!!!  That is inspiring - YOU GO GIRL! Where are you from with people hating like that? You got to be good for her to be giving you the run around like that - she is acting like the people who are at the top that won't come around to those attempting to get there to advise. Baby you have to stand up for yourself! The way it sounds it don't seem like you will have a hard time moving, start taking pictures of your work go to Salon owners and show em' what you got! |
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Using white out over the address and then writing over that would work too. |
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